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"Did you bokeh my child?"
Feb 19, 2019 23:10:14 #
Language and word meanings are ever-changing as time passes. Purists may win the battle here over the meaning of bokeh, but they will lose the war.
Feb 20, 2019 05:32:46 #
bbrown5154
Loc: Baltimore, MD
JohnSwanda wrote:
Has anyone seen the new iPhone commercial touting ... (show quote)
LOL, I've seen it and thought it was funny. A lot of words are used as verbs that aren't necessarily verbs.
Don't get too caught up in the technical definition because "technically" Apple is correct.
Feb 20, 2019 05:33:31 #
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Feb 20, 2019 05:36:18 #
bbrown5154
Loc: Baltimore, MD
JohnSwanda wrote:
It is a word used to compare the quality of out of focus blur when evaluating different lenses. You can say the difference between good and bad bokeh is the amount of blur, but you would be wrong. it's not what I "think" the meaning of the word is, it's the established definition.
I think you are getting waaay too caught up in "established definition".
For example remember when "bad" meant something bad or that "cool" meant something cold?
Feb 20, 2019 05:37:02 #
Feb 20, 2019 06:18:23 #
BebuLamar wrote:
That way they can sell more phones. They don't need their customers to understand just to buy into whatever they sell.
I'm sure every customer who buys a DSLR "understands" the camera. Right? I think the advances in the cell phone in the last 5 years outweigh the level in the DSLR's.
Feb 20, 2019 06:42:43 #
I'm still seething about this silly "gifting" mess. How many times to I have to yell that "gift" is the noun, and "give" is the verb!! You don't "gift" something to somebody, you GIVE it to them!!
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Feb 20, 2019 06:49:37 #
Feb 20, 2019 07:09:06 #
traderjohn wrote:
I'm sure every customer who buys a DSLR "understands" the camera. Right? I think the advances in the cell phone in the last 5 years outweigh the level in the DSLR's.
I said nothing about people who buy DSLR's. I just said that Apple wants to sell their phones. I also do not say that which is better the phone or the DSLR.
Feb 20, 2019 07:35:32 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
Has anyone seen the new iPhone commercial touting ... (show quote)
In the spirit of Norma Loquendi (“Consuetudo, jus et norma loquendi…” : The right method of speaking and pronouncing is established by custom... ), we almost have to accept that nouns will be verbed in post modern English. Rather than supinely accepting the naked derived regularized forms ('to bokeh', 'bokehed', 'bokehing', etcetera), we, as true keepers of the photographic flame, would be well advised to promote and popularize 'bokehvate' as the preferred form of the verb derived from the barrowed Japanese word 'bokeh.' It would follow that the 'bokehvate' process would be known as 'bokehvation' and the gerund would be 'bokehvating.'
Feb 20, 2019 07:37:03 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I said nothing about people who buy DSLR's. I just said that Apple wants to sell their phones. I also do not say that which is better the phone or the DSLR.
"They don't need their customers to understand just to buy into whatever they sell."
I just expanded your premise. The same would hold true for the camera industry.
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Feb 20, 2019 07:44:28 #
repleo wrote:
Let the unwashed masses wallow in their misunderstanding. We real photographers with our real cameras can revell in our superior knowledge while those iPhone losers send their cool out-of-focus-background shots to their friends around the world before we can get the lens cap off of our f1.4 on a FF body.
Lol....true!
Feb 20, 2019 07:47:13 #
ELNikkor wrote:
I'm still seething about this silly "gifting" mess. How many times to I have to yell that "gift" is the noun, and "give" is the verb!! You don't "gift" something to somebody, you GIVE it to them!!
AMEN!
Feb 20, 2019 07:51:47 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
They seem to think it means throwing the background out of focus...
For all practical purposes, that is exactly what it means. The quality aspect is just an arguing point. We have a similar situation with a DX lens on an FX body. Posters have to be very careful how they word the fact that the DX lens produces an increased telephoto effect.
"The word comes from Japanese language, which literally translates as “blur”."
https://photographylife.com/what-is-bokeh
If bokeh is blur, then you can talk about good blur and bad blur, which is what bokeh is all about.
Feb 20, 2019 07:52:49 #
ELNikkor wrote:
I'm still seething about this silly "gifting" mess. How many times to I have to yell that "gift" is the noun, and "give" is the verb!! You don't "gift" something to somebody, you GIVE it to them!!
True that!
Use of 'Gift' as a verb is so gratuitously, egregiously redundant as to very nearly force me back into the prescriptivist camp. My own 'nails across a blackboard' reaction to 'gifting' is metaphorical decimation. (That's Metaphorical! - I'm not really willing to sacrifice a finger and a toe).
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