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Feb 19, 2019 17:07:41   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I've never experienced issues deleting individual images in camera, and I do it regularly.

There are many self-proclaimed photography experts on the internet who really don't know what they are talking about, but are quick to give advice based on unsubstantiated assumptions, not on hard facts.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:11:47   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
boberic wrote:
I am just guessing,but it seems to me that the more times that you remove and re-insert the card the more likely damage, corruption, you may cause.


I'd say reinserting is more likely to be an issue with CF cards than with SD cards, because CF cards have a propensity to bend pins in the camera or card reader.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:13:46   #
rfoelber
 
Thanks. I probably should standardise my workflow.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:14:52   #
sandiegosteve Loc: San Diego, CA
 
Interesting topic. Up until about 2 years ago, I deleted off the card from the camera plenty. Never had a problem I attributed in camera deletions.

Then, a few years ago, I read more and more about it being a bad idea with the potential for corruption. So, I haven't done it since.

I did modify my workflow to cull images before bringing into Lightroom, so there really isn't any value in deleting in camera for me. During a shoot, I don't have a lot of time and my card is plenty big.

I am curious about any real scientific proof of this. I can see how fragmentation would be bad. I also know my wife hasn't formatter har card in like 10 years and deletes from the camera with no complaints to me.

For now, I'm sticking with my workflow of insert card, format, shoot, cull in computer and import to Lightroom. If not deleting in camera is better, so be it. Maybe I am a little more confident that the card won't fail now.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:31:44   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I chimp and delete often. I do reformat in camera when the card is almost full after I download. The only time I remove the card from camera is if I'm doing a shoot and fill it up, then I will swap in another card, reformat and go. I have never had an issue and still use my original cards as well as newer ones.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:33:31   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
rfoelber wrote:
...when you use Lightroom, you are supposed to download images via Lightroom and Lightroom is not an easy way to deal with a huge number of new images...


I have been using Downloader Pro for a decade or more. I download from the card to the computer hard drive, renaming through DP. I find it easier to do than downloading/renaming in LR, partly because I started before I used LR. For me, DP has the advantage that all I have to do is give it a descriptive text and choose the images to download, then DP automatically renames the files and places them in folders with the descriptive name and separates raw and jpg files into subfolders (all based on a template that I set up years ago).

I find LR easy to work with, even for 1500 images from a shoot. I do culling in LR, then processing. The results are kept in the LR catalog, which is my go-to search engine.

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Feb 19, 2019 17:33:39   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rfoelber wrote:
I have for the first time heard that one should not delete images from the card while it is in the camera. Because it corrupts the card? I have been doing this daily on long trips to weed out bad shots and to avoid being overwhelmed at the end of the trip. Also, when you use Lightroom, you are supposed to download images via Lightroom and Lightroom is not an easy way to deal with a huge number of new images. Anyway, I will download and then reformat the card in the camera, as suggested, if that is truly the right way to go.
I have for the first time heard that one should no... (show quote)


Yeah, technically you are not supposed to - not sure if this is real or myth. My experience since 1999 is that almost always delete in camera, and I have never experienced a corrupted card as a result.

Now that I use SD cards I use a free utility called SD formatter to format the cards using my computer, and that keeps the file and partition structure healthy.

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/

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Feb 20, 2019 06:33:50   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
I can't remember taking the card I bought in the U.S. (2011) ever being taken out of the camera. Also I never turn the camera off. Never had an issue with the card (I download via. USB lead) or the camera (cleans auto whenever I recharge and replace the battery).

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Feb 20, 2019 06:38:49   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
A card will not loose that image until it is formatted. When you delete in camera is simply removes the folder directive.

That is why you can recover images from a card or hard drive or PC with recovery tools.

Formatting in camera or with your PC makes no difference. Formatting is Formatting but some will argue foolishly.

Deleting images in camera only removes the folder information and has no effect on the card or PC.

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Feb 20, 2019 06:47:36   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Ive never formatted a card and have deleted in camera for years and years.

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Feb 20, 2019 06:58:35   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I have deleted images in camera without any problems. But, my usual way is to use a card reader and download into computer using LR. I then will reformate the card in camera.

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Feb 20, 2019 07:06:45   #
DaveC Loc: Illinois
 
I have been using digital cameras from a Kodak DC240 (1999?) to my present Nikon D7100. Here is the way I have always done it. When I get a new card I put it in the camera and format it. Then I shoot. When I am done with a shoot I remove the card, put in a card reader, and copy it to my computer. I back it up there, then put the card back in the camera and delete the images. Then I am ready for the next shoot. I always delete in the camera and I have never had to re-format a card. And never have. And i have never had a problem.

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Feb 20, 2019 07:20:55   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
For the most part, deleting images from the card via the camera presents no risk. It does use your battery, sometimes a resource even more important than space on the card when out in the field. There's less risk by not deleting using the camera, but really, how much "less risk"? Many tools are quicker at displaying images for culling than LR, particularly if you shoot in RAW. I cull outside LR as much as possible and than import only those files I think I'll edit / keep. I've never had a problem with a card / camera by deleting in the camera, although I typically don't. As a best practice, don't use your computer to delete from the card nor reformat the card. Always format the card in the camera. Copy images from the card to the computer and delete images from those copies on the computer's harddrive.
For the most part, deleting images from the card v... (show quote)


I concur with CHG_CANON.
Obvious Man would ask, why does Canon, Nikon, etc. put the delete button on the back of the camera if it isn't safe to use?
Thanks,
JimmyT Sends

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Feb 20, 2019 07:40:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I never delete images from a memory card because I don't want to waste the time deciding and then deleting. Suppose I make a mistake? The picture is gone. When working with LR, I upload the pictures into a folder called "New" on my computer. From there, I Import them into LR. I have them on the card, in the folder and in LR.

After I do that, I'll format the card.

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Feb 20, 2019 07:42:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
boberic wrote:
I am just guessing,but it seems to me that the more times that you remove and re-insert the card the more likely damage, corruption, you may cause.


That's a concern, but the same thing applies to inserting and removing the USB cable. A Wi-Fi card is the safest way to go, but mine stopped working, and I don't feel like trying again. I remove the card and insert it into the computer.

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