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PP DILEMMA, your photos format is unsupported
Feb 14, 2019 19:11:37   #
rodder
 
being a total newbie and trying to find my own way this comes up frequently but not consistently and I am consistent shooting raw. The app is called PRIME RAW, another app AFTERLIGHT won’t load some photos. Is there a magic button you press to make the issue go away? any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Feb 14, 2019 19:12:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
What camera?

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Feb 14, 2019 19:18:02   #
rodder
 
Working with LUMIX this afternoon I shot with a FZ 300. ote=CHG_CANON]What camera?[/quote]

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Feb 14, 2019 19:20:03   #
rodder
 
hey windy city! went to school there ID, married my wife there

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Feb 14, 2019 19:28:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The technical RAW format is proprietary to every type and model of camera. Nikon is different from Canon is different from Sony is different from Lumix and so forth. Also, although the file extensions are common to each brand of camera, the files are technically different between each model of camera where a NEF file from a Nikon D3200 is different from a D3300 is different from a D3500 and so forth. Have you checked the documentation for your software tools to see if a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ300 is a camera type they support? Or, are these tools specific to Apple phones?

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Feb 14, 2019 19:39:32   #
dwermske
 
I don't know is this will help with your specific issue but, if you always shoot RAW, you might want to consider converting your files to the DNG format. It's a standardized raw format that was developed by Adobe. The DNG converter is free program from Adobe and is continually being upgraded to convert new RAW camera formats to the standard DNG format. Almost all programs have adapted to be able to use it and as a standard like JPG it will not easily be made obsolete. You can get information regarding this standard and the conversion program from the following address.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html

I have been using it for years and I convert all my Canon(CR2) and Sony(ARW) RAW files to DNG. Some companies have been known to make a particular RAW format obsolete which can make those files unreadable in time. I store both formats (original & converted) just to be on the safe side. Good luck.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:05:08   #
rodder
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The technical RAW format is proprietary to every type and model of camera. Nikon is different from Canon is different from Sony is different from Lumix and so forth. Also, although the file extensions are common to each brand of camera, the files are technically different between each model of camera where a NEF file from a Nikon D3200 is different from a D3300 is different from a D3500 and so forth. Have you checked the documentation for your software tools to see if a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ300 is a camera type they support? Or, are these tools specific to Apple phones?
The technical RAW format is proprietary to every t... (show quote)

THANK YOU, my pp is done on an ipad, I don’t understand your phone reference.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:09:40   #
rodder
 
thank you so much, besides what you have told me, I will have to check whether those pp apps will support DNG, correct if i’m wrong.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:23:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
rodder wrote:
thank you so much, besides what you have told me, I will have to check whether those pp apps will support DNG, correct if i’m wrong.


Hey rodder, I didn't intend to add confusion about phones. I had some difficulty determining what app and what platforms you might be referencing by PRIME RAW.

The adobe software is the state of the art and can be subscribed for $10 / month. It can operate directly on the supported RAW types and is regularly updated to support new RAW files from new cameras as they are released to the market. DNG is a general standard, but is actually Adobe's "agnostic" RAW format that never grew to become a general standard across software vendors. Unless your camera captured to a DNG format in the camera, converting to DNG probably becomes just another step that may not work with your current software.

You can wait for more input from the UHH community, or take control of the situation and begin your own search for the software that runs on your ipad and is documented as supporting your camera models RAW format. Google is my tool of choice for this type of problem.

Adobe has made things quite confusing. The subscription software is targed at the desktop / laptop computer-based image editor. Their "free" Adobe Lightroom CC for iPad is "free" to the paid subscribers, but is listed also as being available for the 30-day trial users. But, you may have to start that trial on a supported computer / laptop to then initiate the download and trial of the ipad software. Also, LR is not a fiddle-around and figure it out style of software where some time with some getting-started utube videos will likely help.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:34:56   #
rodder
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hey rodder, I didn't intend to add confusion about phones. I had some difficulty determining what app and what platforms you might be referencing by PRIME RAW.

The adobe software is the state of the art and can be subscribed for $10 / month. It can operate directly on the supported RAW types and is regularly updated to support new RAW files from new cameras as they are released to the market. DNG is a general standard, but is actually Adobe's "agnostic" RAW format that never grew to become a general standard across software vendors. Unless your camera captured to a DNG format in the camera, converting to DNG probably becomes just another step that may not work with your current software.

You can wait for more input from the UHH community, or take control of the situation and begin your own search for the software that runs on your ipad and is documented as supporting your camera models RAW format. Google is my tool of choice for this type of problem.

Adobe has made things quite confusing. The subscription software is targed at the desktop / laptop computer-based image editor. Their "free" Adobe Lightroom CC for iPad is "free" to the paid subscribers, but is listed also as being available for the 30-day trial users. But, you may have to start that trial on a supported computer / laptop to then initiate the download and trial of the ipad software. Also, LR is not a fiddle-around and figure it out style of software where some time with some getting-started utube videos will likely help.
Hey rodder, I didn't intend to add confusion about... (show quote)


THANK FOR YOUR GENEROUS TIME YOU HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME, ALLOW ME TO INCLUDE A LITTLE EYE CANDY, ENJOY YOUR TIME







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Feb 14, 2019 20:37:18   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
rodder wrote:
THANK FOR YOUR GENEROUS TIME YOU HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME, ALLOW ME TO INCLUDE A LITTLE EYE CANDY, ENJOY YOUR TIME


Very nice! Maybe you don't need more software? Welcome aboard!

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Feb 14, 2019 20:49:36   #
rodder
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Very nice! Maybe you don't need more software? Welcome aboard!


You are now a supporter o& the arts, but I bet it’s not the first time, again thank you, I’m grateful.

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Feb 15, 2019 18:59:33   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
dwermske wrote:
I don't know is this will help with your specific issue but, if you always shoot RAW, you might want to consider converting your files to the DNG format. It's a standardized raw format that was developed by Adobe.

Then there is PNG which is, IIRC, Open Source and is gaining traction outside of Adobe. There are some freestanding apps that do nothing but convert raw to your favorite flavor. In any event, it takes the converter creators time to add support for new cameras.

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Feb 15, 2019 19:52:54   #
rodder
 
TheShoe wrote:
Then there is PNG which is, IIRC, Open Source and is gaining traction outside of Adobe. There are some freestanding apps that do nothing but convert raw to your favorite flavor. In any event, it takes the converter creators time to add support for new cameras.


thank you, I’ve been sorting through numerous inexpensive apps and so far I have no problems with Pixelmator accepting my FZ300, but if you a lot with slight variations thumbnails are a drag. This is pixelmator on the ipad which I would recommend particularly if you are working with an older camera.

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Feb 15, 2019 19:53:53   #
dwermske
 
Yes, but PNG (pronounced ping as in ping-pong; for Portable Network Graphics) is a file format for image compression that, in time, is expected to replace the Graphics Interchange Format (GIF) that is widely used on today's Internet. The main difference between JPG and PNG is the compression algorithms that they use. JPG uses a lossy compression algorithm that discards some of the image information in order to reduce the size of the file. ... With PNG, the quality of the image will not change, but the size of the file will usually be larger.

Personally, I think keeping the image in a RAW format, whether original or DNG is always preferable to any compressed format. RAW provides the post-processor the ability to do so much more because all the data is there. While post-processing any compressed file is extremely limiting in comparison.

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