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Feb 14, 2019 06:09:36   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
I think that running for congress is "all about the banjamins" for sure... No falsehood in that.

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Feb 14, 2019 07:06:20   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
No outside government should have that much influence over this country. US policies should be above everyone else’s. Foreign aid why do we give so much foreign aid to other countries billions yearly

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Feb 14, 2019 07:43:55   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
incognito wrote:
is that like you being stupid is not like you being a rocket scientist. Let's face fact what Omar and Tlaib said was anti-sematic plain and simple not anti likud, not just anti Israel but Anti-Sematic. To give a pass to them is a double standard. H**e speech is h**e speech regardless of who and what side said it But being elected officials they need to learn restraint and should realize they represent this country and it's citizens. It is much worse than wearing black face some 30+ years ago. Minstrel shows of years ago was an accepted norm it was a sign of the times. It does not make it right but does it deserve a hall pass? What these women said is no different than what the KKK would say and they should be called out on it. And just because the article was written by an Israeli Jew does not make it the gospel
is that like you being stupid is not like you bein... (show quote)



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Feb 14, 2019 07:47:24   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
OK it was lifted from Wikipedia I think, I meant to include the link.

Admin won't let me say what you are being, but we both know. If I didn't know that most Mexicans are a lot different than you I would be in favor of the wall. In fact I'd help build it.


OMG, little tommie boy you are such a blatant r****t. I hope he turns your r****t butt into admin.

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Feb 14, 2019 07:49:39   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
Because you say so? Well I guess that settles it then. You disagreeing with him doesn't make him a liar, and while I believe you have a lot of experience with lunacy, I fear you have gotten it from the wrong side of the couch. Calm down, take some deep breaths in a paper bag (or you could help us out and use a plastic one) and list the unt***hs and show how they are untrue. Then explain the claim of lunacy if you can do so without frothing. Whenever claiming someone is insane you are more credible if you yourself aren't frothing.
Whether you are right or wrong your post makes you look unhinged. That or it shows you are.

Jews are not monolithic. They are not required to all think alike, and they don't. Disagreeing with you neither makes one a liar or a lunatic.
Because you say so? Well I guess that settles it t... (show quote)


Here is the snide little tommie rearing his pointy little head in a lame attempt to be clever. You are the one looking unhinged little boy.

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Feb 14, 2019 08:58:22   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
thom w wrote:
I won't say you never contribute anything, but I will say I can't think of anything.


do you consider you consider bloviations contributions?...more like pollution, You are 100 % correct about one thing thommie the genius..."You cant think".

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Feb 14, 2019 09:00:33   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
wilpharm wrote:
do you consider you consider bloviations contributions?...more like pollution, You are 100 % correct about one thing thommie the genius..."You cant think".


It is true, he cannot think or reason.

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Feb 14, 2019 09:30:52   #
Rose42
 
sb wrote:
I think that running for congress is "all about the banjamins" for sure... No falsehood in that.


Yes it is.

Those two are anti-Semites but its not because of that statement. Most people know they are and those who elected them don't care.

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Feb 14, 2019 12:42:08   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
thom w wrote:
https://www.thenation.com/article/ady-barkan-aipac-ilhan-omar/

I’m ashamed to admit that endorsing AIPAC positions was all about the Benjamins for me and my candidate.
By Ady Barkan

Over the weekend, Republican House minority leader Kevin McCarthy said he would seek to formally sanction the first two Muslim congresswomen, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, because their criticism of Israel’s occupation of Palestine was even more reprehensible than Congressman Steve King’s defense of w***e s*******y. What motivated McCarthy’s false accusations of anti-Semitism? On Twitter, Omar suggested, “It’s all about the Benjamins baby,” quoting Puff Daddy’s ’90s paean to cash money. Omar subsequently specified that she was talking about spending from the likes of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, better known as AIPAC, the powerful pro-Israel lobbying organization.
By Monday morning, AIPAC had mobilized its allies to condemn Omar’s comment for playing into centuries-old anti-Semitic tropes that wealthy Jews control the world. Even the Democratic leadership put out a statement condemning her. All because she dared to point out that the emperor has no clothes.
As a Jew, an Israeli citizen, and a professional lobbyist (ahem, activist), I speak from personal experience when I say that AIPAC is tremendously effective, and the lubricant that makes its operation hum is dollar, dollar bills.
In 2006, fresh out of college, I landed a job as the first real staffer on a long-shot Democratic congressional race in deep-red Ohio. My boss, Victoria Wulsin, was a charming hippie doctor with a lefty perspective on international affairs. She was skeptical of military force and opposed to the Israeli occupation of Palestine.
About a month after winning the Democratic primary, we were struggling to gain attention or money. Nobody gave us a chance to win. One political-action organization, however, did reach out to us. It wasn’t Emily’s List, although Vic was fiercely pro-choice. It wasn’t a labor union or even a doctors’ association. It was AIPAC.
A local Democratic volunteer leader of the Cincinnati AIPAC chapter sat down in Vic’s living room and I recall him saying that he would like to raise $5,000 for our campaign and would also like to see Vic take a public stance on two relatively obscure issues relating to Iranian sanctions, arms sales to Israel, or some other such topic that very few v**ers in the district cared about.
Vic and I both thought of ourselves as pro-peace, not pro-Israel. We both felt icky about doing it; it was too hawkish and too quid pro quo. But we were desperate. So I read the AIPAC position papers that the volunteer left with us, I wrote up a statement saying that Vic supported AIPAC’s stance on its two pet issues of the cycle, she approved it, I posted it online, and the checks promptly arrived in the mail thereafter. We didn’t win, but the money helped us get close.
It was, I am ashamed to say, definitely about the Benjamins. We never would have done it otherwise. AIPAC’s power is about more than money, certainly. It’s about great organizing (they built a local chapter, and sent a local Democratic volunteer emissary who then facilitated the contributions). It’s about diligence (they paid attention to Vic’s campaign long before anyone else, and were happy to donate to both us and the militaristic, pro-Likud Republican incumbent). Their lobbyists on the Hill are the best in the business, and their legislator junkets to the Holy Land are masterfully orchestrated. But money is central to the whole system.
Technically, AIPAC doesn’t make the political contributions. Instead, as it notes proudly on its website, individual members of its “Congressional Club,” like that Cincinnati resident, do the bundling and donating directly, both as individuals and through Political Action Committees that AIPAC and its members have set up.
Omar is right to point all this out. These dynamics are not unique to the Israel-Palestine issue, however, and there is no reason that Americans should be surprised or offended by what she and I are saying. The NRA and the broader gun lobby operate in the same way. Same with ExxonMobil and the fossil-fuel lobby. But since Omar and Tlaib are powerful new spokeswomen for the movement to end the Israeli occupation, delegitimizing them is a central aim of the Israel lobby.
AIPAC and its partners, which include Christian Z*****ts and military contractors, are a central pillar of the Israeli occupation. Without congressional support, the Likud/anti-Palestine/pro-occupation project would be radically undermined. The money that AIPAC and the rest of the lobby spend is indispensable to that work. That’s why they spend it. Pointing this out is not anti-Semitic.
We do, in fact, have a growing anti-Semitism problem in America. But Omar and Tlaib are not a part of it. They are allies of mine and of Jews across this country who are fighting for peace, racial justice, immigrants’ rights, and the defeat of f*****m. The anti-Semites are the N**is and w***e s*********ts who marched and murdered in Charlottesville, whom Donald Trump called “very fine people,” and the MAGA supporter who massacred worshippers at a Pittsburgh synagogue.
The Israel lobby flexed its muscles in response to Omar’s tweet. Almost all of Capitol Hill, sadly including the Democratic leadership that I have supported, was up in arms. It flexed with equal potency last month in marshaling through the Senate a clearly unconstitutional law to ban speech promoting a boycott of Israel.
For 12 years, I have harbored minor private shame for advising Vic to endorse AIPAC’s position papers and more significant shame for not doing enough to stop the oppression of the Palestinian people.
I am speaking up now because it may be my last chance. Although I am only 35, I am dying. As I write these words, I am sitting with my wife in the waiting room of the Santa Barbara hospital emergency room, slowly bleeding from my stomach into a pile of gauze. I had a feeding tube inserted four days ago but it isn’t healing properly. I am losing the ability to swallow, because I have ALS, a poorly understood neurological disease with no treatment, which seized my body 28 months ago and has basically paralyzed me since. My hands do not work and almost nobody can understand my mumbling, so I am using amazing technology that tracks the location of my eyes and allows me to slowly type out these words with my pupil-tips.
This is my chance to redeem my Jewish guilt, to speak out against the oppression that is being perpetrated in my name, and I do not intend to let a minor obstacle like ALS stop me.
Young Jews across America increasingly agree with Omar and me, and that is making the Israel lobby very nervous. As it should: The occupation is too immoral, illegal, and inhumane to survive an open and honest conversation in the marketplace of ideas. That is why AIPAC and its associates work to silence criticism of Israel by accusing its detractors of anti-Semitism and claiming that nobody may ever talk about how the Israel lobby uses money to build power.
The ugly t***h is that the Israel lobby, like other powerful lobbies led by Jew and gentile alike, wields its money strategically and effectively. Outrage should be directed not at those who point this out (most often Muslims and people of color) but at the suffering of the Palestinian people and the simultaneous dependence of the Republican Party on genuine anti-Semites.
I do not expect to live to see the liberation of the Palestinian people. But I maintain hope that my toddler son will. If he does, it will be because young American Jews like him do the honest self-reflection taught by our forebears, take p***e in our tradition of justice, and join in solidarity and struggle with fellow Semites like Omar.
Ady BarkanTwitterAdy Barkan is an organizer with the Center for Popular Democracy and the founder of the Be A Hero PAC. His memoir, Eyes to the Wind, will be published by Atria Books in the fall.
https://www.thenation.com/article/ady-barkan-aipac... (show quote)



Only the truly moronic could read her past, her posts, her comments and NOT see her as anti-Semitic.

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Feb 14, 2019 12:44:16   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
thom w wrote:
Did you read the entire article. If you did, and you still feel as you say, you are entitled to your opinion. Do you believe that the Jew who wrote the article is an anti-Semite? If you didn't read the whole article, you are posting out of ignorance and I'm not interested.




Yes....It was progressive drivel.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:20:14   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Here’s a counter point to thom’s post......

Chicago Sun Times, 02/13/2019, 02:29pm
U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar should be held accountable for anti-Semitic claims

“The past few weeks have been painful and eye-opening for many Americans.

The image of a white politician (apparently) donning blackface in an old yearbook, a deeply offensive and r****t mockery of African-Americans, opened fresh wounds for many — and during Black History Month. Virginia’s governor, Ralph Northam, has apologized, as has the state’s attorney general for a similar episode, but neither has resigned.


Likewise, a Minnesota congresswoman has had to apologize twice in three weeks for troubling anti-Semitic tweets.

Rep. Ilhan Omar, a Democrat from Minnesota, this week tweeted a vile comment, suggesting Israel’s supporters in Congress are beholden to AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. “It’s all about the Benjamins, baby,” she asserted. The tweet drew immediate gasps and ire from all political corners, deservedly, including her own party leadership.

The Anti-Defamation League responded, “At a time when anti-Semitism is on the rise in the U.S. and abroad, Rep. Omar is promoting the ugly, anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that Jews have an outsized influence over politics. The notion that wealthy Jews are controlling the government is a longstanding anti-Semitic trope and one of the pillars of modern anti-Semitism….”

It wasn’t the first example of Omar’s willingness to traffic in these anti-Semitic themes.

Just weeks ago she had to defend a 2012 tweet in which she claimed, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.”

Amid calls for her to resign, she, like the men in Virginia, apologized, but is also defiant, tweeting: “Listening and learning, but standing strong.”

That’s another parallel in these two troubling tales: ignorance.

Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring blamed his college blackface on “ignorance and glib attitudes.” Northam has also suggested he needs to educate himself on the history of r****m in America. If a recent interview with Gayle King is any indication, he has a ways to go; she had to correct him that the term was “s***ery,” not “indentured servitude.”

Omar also admitted she needs an education and responded to New York Times opinion editor Bari Weiss on Twitter: “You are correct when you say, ‘Perhaps Ms. Omar is sincerely befuddled and not simply deflecting,’” in failing to grasp why the “hypnotized” comment was so offensive.

But for all the similarities, there’s an important difference between Omar and the two Virginia politicians. While many Democrats in Virginia — including African Americans — say Northam and Herring’s policies have been good for b****s, Omar supports one policy that is patently bad for Jews.

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign is a pro-Palestinian movement to punish Israel through boycotts, divestments and sanctions. Omar is one of only two House members — Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib is the other — to support it.

As the ADL describes it, “many of the founding goals of the BDS movement, including denying the Jewish people the universal right of self-determination, along with many of the strategies employed in BDS campaigns, are anti-Semitic.”

To be clear, the BDS movement is not just a criticism of Israeli policy. I spoke with JNS.org editor-in-chief Jonathan Tobin last week, who said millions of Israeli Jews wake up every morning and criticize Israeli policy. BDS, on the other hand, is about demonizing and delegitimizing Jews and a Jewish state — as Tobin reminds, “the only Jewish state on the planet.”

Ignorance isn’t a sin — though, we’d presumably expect our elected officials, from the president on down, to know something about the important histories of r****m and anti-Semitism.

But ignorance can’t explain Omar and Tlaib’s support for a movement whose anti-Semitism is plainly stated and painfully obvious.

They’ve apologized for their tweets. Will we hold them accountable for their policies?”

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Feb 14, 2019 19:34:28   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
OK it was lifted from Wikipedia I think, I meant to include the link.

Admin won't let me say what you are being, but we both know. If I didn't know that most Mexicans are a lot different than you I would be in favor of the wall. In fact I'd help build it.


Why do you think he's Mexican, r****t? I imagine he's a U.S. citizen by birth, and from a Hispanic heritage. Very different than being a Mexican. What proof do you have of your statement?

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Feb 15, 2019 10:59:54   #
Tex-s
 
thom w wrote:
Being anti Likud is not being anti-Semitic.


You might consider if you truly believe your post or if you just instinctively yearn to defend the voices of the left. Your post is similar to suggesting that being pro-Jim Crow laws is not anti-black, a strain to say the least. Uttering it also lends credence to similar statements made by conservatives who claim being anti-a******n is not inherently anti-woman.

Trying to parse factions of "Jews" into subgroups: activists, PAC's, Israel, the Mossad, or Likud is just a a veil to shroud the real intent, which is the desire to undermine the sovereignty of the Jewish State and to reduce the influence of the Jewish faithful in our nation. What the Jew-condemning liberals fail to note, though, is that Muslims actually have a greater degree of freedom inside Israel than in many majority-Muslim nations. They are certainly more prosperous than most. These thoughts undermine a HUGE portion of the anti-Israel 'liberal logic' being trumpeted by the left.

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