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Feb 13, 2019 10:05:53   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/parkland-anniversary-marjory-stoneman-douglas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

A year after the school shooting that was supposed to change everything.

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Feb 13, 2019 10:51:37   #
Rose42
 
Frank T wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/parkland-anniversary-marjory-stoneman-douglas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

A year after the school shooting that was supposed to change everything.


You mean the anti gun faction would get their chance to incrementally take away rights based on emotional responses to a tragedy?

We live in an age where people have less of a mentality to fight back.

What most people don't know. Some deaths could have been avoided if personnel were trained better and/or reacted differently. If instead of being herded into classrooms students got out any way they could rather than making themselves better targets.

http://projects.sun-sentinel.com/2018/sfl-parkland-school-shooting-critical-moments/?fbclid=IwAR1404bPUMaBrfVRipdXwlo3lGeSPRTg4Kl4zaopKyQ8O1_FKiYzVU3uN4w

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Feb 13, 2019 10:56:57   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Frank T wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/parkland-anniversary-marjory-stoneman-douglas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

A year after the school shooting that was supposed to change everything.


No meaningful protection of students and school has happened....
No armed teachers, metal detectors or hardening of the school.
Sad liberals don’t have the fortitude to protect kids.

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Feb 13, 2019 12:17:45   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
yhtomit wrote:
No meaningful protection of students and school has happened....
No armed teachers, metal detectors or hardening of the school.
Sad liberals don’t have the fortitude to protect kids.


That is just not true. Just today on the news I am seeing that some personnel will be armed with Glock handguns and Keltec rifles in .223 caliber. I saw nothing of metal detectors yet which would be a plus for any school with someone there to monitor the entrance. Having only one main entrance is also a plus.

Dennis

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Feb 13, 2019 12:35:48   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/parkland-anniversary-marjory-stoneman-douglas.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

A year after the school shooting that was supposed to change everything.


Frank what did you expect to happen. It has been a year of tragedy for everyone involved. That is to be expected just as it does in any of life's tragedies. Nobody who has suffered a death in the family or is close to the trauma that happened that day is immune.

Just today I read in the news that the school has approved arming select personnel with Glock handguns and Keltec rifles in .223 caliber. That is a plus for the school and a start to the students and staff feeling somewhat secure once more.

But let's take a look at what took place that most likely facilitated the shooting in the first place. No, you and other Lefties won't like it but it is what it is.

The k**ler was well known to be a violent trouble maker having beaten his mother up several times. Other students were also inclined toward criminal tendencies. So why weren't they arrested, you might ask. Well the answer is that the Broward County Sheriff, Israel, and the school superintendent, Runcie, entered into a pact of protecting the students against arrest because there were so many students that fit into that category. Rather than students being arrested which would bring negative headlines to the school, Israel and Runcie decided to not call law enforcement but to treat the offense as non criminal. Everything was deferred to another way of handling criminal behavior. Unfortunately the shooter, Nicholas Cruz, fell into that pattern as well. There were numerous signs that he was violent and should have been locked up but that would not fit the agenda of the two Democratic main players, Israel and Runcie. So nothing happened.

Since nothing ever happened to Cruz in the past he had no fear of k*****g numerous students on that fateful day. Of course he was aided admirably in his quest for k*****g by a Broward County deputy who cowered outside the school while he heard gunshots inside the school. Cruz was also aided by BCSO upper staff when two SWAT members who were close by said they were responding to the gunfire but were told to Stand Down by one of the supervisors. Teams from another agency entered the school.

It would appear that policy set by two lifelong Democrats who worshipped Obama and Hillary Clinton aided in the k*****g that day.

Dennis

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Feb 13, 2019 12:47:09   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Really guys?
Your answer is , "blame the Democrats"?
Maybe next time it will be your grandchildren.
Smarten up.

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Feb 13, 2019 13:26:03   #
EyeSawYou
 
Frank T wrote:
Really guys?
Your answer is , "blame the Democrats"?
Maybe next time it will be your grandchildren.
Smarten up.


Yes we do blame Democrats, they refuse to protect innocent children's lives in public schools and even in the womb.

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Feb 13, 2019 13:48:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
You mean the anti gun faction would get their chance to incrementally take away rights based on emotional responses to a tragedy?

We live in an age where people have less of a mentality to fight back.

What most people don't know. Some deaths could have been avoided if personnel were trained better and/or reacted differently. If instead of being herded into classrooms students got out any way they could rather than making themselves better targets.

http://projects.sun-sentinel.com/2018/sfl-parkland-school-shooting-critical-moments/?fbclid=IwAR1404bPUMaBrfVRipdXwlo3lGeSPRTg4Kl4zaopKyQ8O1_FKiYzVU3uN4w
You mean the anti gun faction would get their chan... (show quote)


If only you had been there, to show them how it's done. Or Trump, he would have run in there unarmed, he said so. I guess it could be true. He goes into battles of wits unarmed on a regular basis.

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Feb 13, 2019 13:51:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Yes we do blame Democrats, they refuse to protect innocent children's lives in public schools and even in the womb.


There's no law against a fetus carrying a fire arm, since that's probably where you are going.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:22:08   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
If only you had been there, to show them how it's done. Or Trump, he would have run in there unarmed, he said so. I guess it could be true. He goes into battles of wits unarmed on a regular basis.


What a silly response. Trump and parties are irrelevant here. You should read the report. Its an eye opener for a lot of things. There were multiple points of failure which made a tragic situation even worse.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:32:53   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
What a silly response. Trump and parties are irrelevant here. You should read the report. Its an eye opener for a lot of things. There were multiple points of failure which made a tragic situation even worse.


When I look at how accessible campuses were when I was in school, I have to believe the primary problem isn't on campus. I have to believe there are societal fixes. At the same time I'm in favor of any on campus fixes that might mitigate the problem, as long as unintended consequences are considered when making changes. Kids going to school aren't going to want to feel they are in a fort or a prison.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:35:29   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Rose42 wrote:
What a silly response. Trump and parties are irrelevant here. You should read the report. Its an eye opener for a lot of things. There were multiple points of failure which made a tragic situation even worse.


By Michael D. Shear
Feb. 26, 2018


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WASHINGTON — President Trump asserted Monday that he would have rushed in to save the students and teachers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from a gunman with an assault weapon, even if he was unarmed at the time of the massacre.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/politics/trump-school-shooter-florida.html

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Feb 13, 2019 14:43:27   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
By Michael D. Shear
Feb. 26, 2018


2917
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WASHINGTON — President Trump asserted Monday that he would have rushed in to save the students and teachers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from a gunman with an assault weapon, even if he was unarmed at the time of the massacre.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/politics/trump-school-shooter-florida.html


He's still not relevant to this thread but yeah, sure he would have. Easy to say when you're not there.

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Feb 13, 2019 14:49:53   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
When I look at how accessible campuses were when I was in school, I have to believe the primary problem isn't on campus. I have to believe there are societal fixes. At the same time I'm in favor of any on campus fixes that might mitigate the problem, as long as unintended consequences are considered when making changes. Kids going to school aren't going to want to feel they are in a fort or a prison.


I agree the problem itself isn't on the campus. Society in general is getting angrier and angrier. Social media only fuels that anger. So how to fix it?

One thing I saw is children being herded together in a classroom. That makes for easier targets. I look at it this way - those who grew up during Hitler's bombing raids in England were trained how to react. Children where taught what to do. The same applies here. If there is a situation like this don't all huddle together. If possible beat feet and get out of there any way you can. It's not a good idea to stick around and wait. - this from people who have been trained how to handle those situations.

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Feb 13, 2019 15:45:40   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
dennis2146 wrote:
That is just not true. Just today on the news I am seeing that some personnel will be armed with Glock handguns and Keltec rifles in .223 caliber. I saw nothing of metal detectors yet which would be a plus for any school with someone there to monitor the entrance. Having only one main entrance is also a plus.

Dennis


Thanks for sharing the good news Dennis.

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