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Feb 11, 2019 20:40:18   #
BebuLamar
 
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The good, the bad, and the uglee acoarst !
Where you been all these many pages ? It's
important suff and you gotta keep your eye
on the ball ;-)

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Not talking to you! Shut up!

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Feb 11, 2019 20:45:31   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
mas24 wrote:
I don't own a mirrorless camera. My Nikon DSLR has an optical viewfinder. Mirrorless cameras have electronic viewfinders. I have read on this forum, that some don't like the EVF. Especially, if you're accustomed to the OVF. Is one really better than the other?


Real photographers don't use either. They are just that good. They manually focus and never use the camera meter. That is why they use cameras like the D850 or D500.

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Feb 11, 2019 21:10:36   #
User ID
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Not talking to you! Shut up!


So grumpy !

Meds ?



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Feb 11, 2019 21:36:18   #
Wyoshooter
 
I shoot BOP a lot with Nikon D7100 and Tamron Sp 150-600. I bought the Sony A6000 when it first came out and my ease of shooting with it is SO much better. EVF with Histogram and Zebra to Mark the highlights allows me to hit the correct exposure almost effortlessly. The Nikon I have to chimp a lot. The Sony is light and much more fun to shoot than the Nikon. If I could only have one camera it would be a Fuji. Beacause they have a pretty sharp tele that would work with Birds and Wildlife.

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Feb 11, 2019 21:45:55   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
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So grumpy !

Meds ?


Not being picky, but your self portraits should be posted in the Photo Gallery or Advanced Portraiture Section.

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Feb 11, 2019 21:52:46   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Wyoshooter wrote:
I shoot BOP a lot with Nikon D7100 and Tamron Sp 150-600. I bought the Sony A6000 when it first came out and my ease of shooting with it is SO much better. EVF with Histogram and Zebra to Mark the highlights allows me to hit the correct exposure almost effortlessly. The Nikon I have to chimp a lot. The Sony is light and much more fun to shoot than the Nikon. If I could only have one camera it would be a Fuji. Beacause they have a pretty sharp tele that would work with Birds and Wildlife.


A friend owns an a6000. I have not looked through his EVF. Previously, on this post, one said the a6000 is not one of the best EVF. A high quality mirrorless camera, such as the Sony a7rii, or a Fuji X-T2/XT-3, probably have one of the better EVF. Not all OVF are created equal too. I hope you get your Fuji camera. My friend wants to upgrade to a Sony a6500.

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Feb 11, 2019 22:01:59   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Real photographers don't use either. They are just that good. They manually focus and never use the camera meter. That is why they use cameras like the D850 or D500.


Yes. Those are great cameras. The D500 is noted for its low light capabilities, sports, and wildlife. Some say the best crop sensor DSLR of all. The D850. Nikon nailed that one. Successor to the D810. Which is a great DSLR too. Unfortunately, I'm not one of the Real Photographers you described. I use my camera meter.

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Feb 11, 2019 22:05:59   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
User ID wrote:
Makes no sense whatsoever. You got no PP
software so you use your SLR like a phone ?

Just use the phone. Software is part of SLR
use, just same as batteries and SD cards.

The question of best workflow for a user of
an SLR with no PP software is no question
at all. There's no reason to assist such user.

"Can anyone advise me of the best route
to Chicago ? I have a Grand Cherokee but
no license, and can't be bothered getting
any tires. I drive on the rims."


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Makes no sense whatsoever. You got no PP br softw... (show quote)


Not everyone that is on this site has paid for PP. There are functions on the camera for various color corrections. And the various metering systems along with in-camera HDR and stack focus. And there is the manufacture's own processing software. But my computer is small in memory and has only had the basic camera manufacturer's solfware downloaded. I don't have enough space on it to even install Elements even if I wanted to. It is easier to directly transfer the JPEG image and process it on my phone (more capacity than my computer). That is if and when I decide to process the image. Otherwise, almost all of my images on UHH are SOOC, no processing other than cropping. I do not have much "spare" time for processing and, therefore, not very knowledgeable in that area. That is why I don't really participate in many PP discussion in UHH. So for people like me, the image almost always has to be out of camera "perfect". My last shoot for a friend was 3 1/2 hour birthday party of 302 shots. I gave him 294 shots. I had 2 blurred shots, one accidental shot of the floor, one failed flash (not on, shot too dark), and 4 more shots over or under exposed. And when shooting for my wife, I have to do even better. There are no second chances for shots on FAM trips. If you miss a shot, that is it. You missed the shot and there is no going back.

For people like me, I would love the luxury of going out on a weekend for shooting. I would love to be able to participte intelligently in PP. But until I retire and can do that, I will have to enjoy the information I can find here on UHHs to help me shoot my photos SOOC.

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Feb 11, 2019 22:36:57   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
G Brown wrote:
Most cameras have had 'live view' for some time which is a form of EVF so how do you like it.
On my sony A6300 the evf allows me to 'zoom in' to focus whereas My old Canon cannot (OVF) it also allows me to alter aperture and 'see' the difference.

on occasion the view has broken up when panning around quickly, but that was me just finding different 'viewpoints' so was not an actual shooting mode.

Lag time ? can't ever say I noticed - but then MY lag time is probably a greater problem!

Go handle one in a bricks and mortar shop...then decide.

Have fun
Most cameras have had 'live view' for some time wh... (show quote)


I would never buy a camera with an EVF. When you've looked into glass for 50 years, you are loath to change. Rather than jumping at the newest digital gadget, I make my own judgments about digital vs. analog solutions in cameras as well as other products. >Alan

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Feb 11, 2019 23:01:09   #
Ichiban365
 
User ID wrote:
The question of best workflow for a user of
an SLR with no PP software is no question
at all. There's no reason to assist such user.
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The topic here was OVF vs EVF, not workflow. A post as hostile and rude as this one deserves the response that post processing is for those who cannot get it right when they take the photograph. But that response would be just as stupid as the comment which triggered it. As with any hobby, interest, or even profession, there should always be room for differing opinions, and respect for the opinions held by others. Some of us prefer to spend our time taking pictures and then enjoying the results, others like to spend their time trying to improve on what they already have. To each his own, but there's no need to be nasty about it.

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Feb 11, 2019 23:09:14   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
aellman wrote:
I would never buy a camera with an EVF. When you've looked into glass for 50 years, you are loath to change. Rather than jumping at the newest digital gadget, I make my own judgments about digital vs. analog solutions in cameras as well as other products. >Alan


I noticed you own a Sony a230 OVF DSLR. That camera was produced before Sony decided to go only with mirrorless and translucent mirror cameras. I remember seeing that camera on display at Sears. That was about 10 years ago. You actually have a little bit of some history. A Sony DSLR. All Sony cameras manufactured today, crop sensor or full frame, have EVF. No more OVF for Sony anymore.

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Feb 12, 2019 00:00:21   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I didn't have the chance to check out the Nikon Z. I was invited to the launch event but couldn't make it. I checked out the A7III but I still don't like it. It's much better than the older ones that I checked out like the Fuji XT-1 or the Olympus OMD-EM-1 first version.


The EM1 has a touch screen. Touch it where you want it to focus and bingo! But if you think the EM1’s Evf is too small, you need to have your eyes checked. The xt1 evf is even bigger

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Feb 12, 2019 00:28:36   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
I haven't looked it up but does anyone know if EVF cameras have a shorter battery life than the OVF, or for the lack of flipping the mirror makes up for it?

This might be important if I were to setup a tripod, pre-focus on a spot and wait for activity in a nest or something else.

This could go on for a long time looking to see if anything has changed. This could be done for an hour or so. I would think the OVF would not take battery power to show things where as the EVF would.

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Feb 12, 2019 00:36:59   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
GENorkus wrote:
I haven't looked it up but does anyone know if EVF cameras have a shorter battery life than the OVF, or for the lack of flipping the mirror makes up for it?

This might be important if I were to setup a tripod, pre-focus on a spot and wait for activity in a nest or something else.

This could go on for a long time looking to see if anything has changed. This could be done for an hour or so. I would think the OVF would not take battery power to show things where as the EVF would.


You are correct that it will use battery power. But one can set the timers for the various standby modes. In your case, you would want shut downs of the rear screen and viewfinder to happen fairly quickly. If there is also a setting for fast power up, you might want to turn that on too.

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Feb 12, 2019 00:41:57   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
GENorkus wrote:
I haven't looked it up but does anyone know if EVF cameras have a shorter battery life than the OVF, or for the lack of flipping the mirror makes up for it?

This might be important if I were to setup a tripod, pre-focus on a spot and wait for activity in a nest or something else.

This could go on for a long time looking to see if anything has changed. This could be done for an hour or so. I would think the OVF would not take battery power to show things where as the EVF would.


Also, you might want to inquire from the manufacturer which screen uses the most power (most likely the rear screen) and set the timer to shut that down first.

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