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Feb 11, 2019 11:46:56   #
Bill P
 
Something I've never heard:
"I sold my 20MP camera and got a 24MP camera. Boy my photos look better!"

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Feb 11, 2019 14:16:07   #
photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State
 
With some exceptions, so long as you stay within a lens mount system, a good lens will be semi permanent in your equipment quiver while the bodies characteristically come and go more often. $$ spent on good glass yield better return than $$ spent bodies.

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Feb 11, 2019 14:45:40   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
grahamfourth wrote:
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D3200. My go-to lenses are a Nikon 40mm Macro lens for insects and flowers, and a Nikon 70-300mm for birds and other distant animals. I don't often have the finances to upgrade, so I need to make good choices when I do. As I consider my options based on the kind of photography I do, it seems my best choices now are either to upgrade my macro lens to one with a longer working distance (such as the Nikon 85mm macro) so I can be further away from my subjects, or upgrade my camera to a Nikon D7200, since the cost of both is similar right now (better telephoto lenses are way out of my price range, so that is not an option at this point).
I think I have a pretty good idea of the improvements I will get from the 85mm lens, but I am less clear what type of improvement I can expect in going to a D7200. I have read reviews that indicate there is a substantial improvement in going to the D7200, but it is not entirely clear to me how the improvements will flesh out. I would appreciate any advice people can give me regarding whether choosing a new lens or a new camera will provide a bigger improvement for my photography. Thank you all in advance for your input, and for taking the time to read this post.
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D... (show quote)


The D7200 is being sold at its lowest price that I can remember. $700 new and $629 for a refurbished one. I believe lenses are forever, until you sell your old one and buy a better lens. Most Nikon lenses work well on a Nikon DSLR body. And are preferred by many Nikon users. But, there are some good lenses in Third Party. Tamron, Sigma, and Tokina. Check out their prices and reviews. You could find one to your liking. Good luck.

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Feb 11, 2019 15:31:10   #
User ID
 
photogeneralist wrote:
.....
long as you stay within a lens mount system, a good
lens will be semi permanent in your equipment quiver
while the bodies characteristically come and go more
often. $$ spent on good glass yield better return than
$$ spent bodies.



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Feb 11, 2019 16:01:24   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
gvarner wrote:
Check out the Tokina 100mm Macro. It’s a great value, decent quality at a decent price. It will give you way more working distance than the 40.


The Tokina 100mm macro will be manual focus only on D3000-series and D5000-series Nikons. I was going to suggest it, too... for it's lower price... until I remembered that. In the Nikon mount, the Tokina lens doesn't have an in-lens focusing motor. It relies on one in the camera body, which only the D7000-series and higher Nikon models have.

USUALLY, lenses make a lot more difference than the camera they are used upon. Nikon D3200 and D7200 use the same 24MP sensor, so there's not going to be much, if any difference in image quality. The differences would be more direct access to controls, a fancier AF system and faster frame rate, as well as better build and sealing for weather resistance with the D72000. Hard to say if these would really translate into "better images" though.

Is your 70-300mm the DX "kit" version without VR? If so, maybe you should upgrade that lens instead. Stabilization is MUCH more helpful on longer focal lengths. Maybe you should look a the Tamron or Sigma 100-400mm. Both of them are stabilized and another 100mm of telephoto reach might come in real handy for birds and more distant critters. Between the Sigma and the Tamron, personally I'd buy the Tamron. It costs a little more, but it can optionally be fitted with a tripod mounting ring (sold separately) and I'd want that on a 100-400mm.

Add a set of Kenko Macro Extension tubes ($130) and you can use your telephoto lens for close-up, near macro magnification work too. Keep your 40mm for higher magnification work, until you can trade it up to a longer lens like the 85mm or 105mm Nikkor.

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Feb 11, 2019 16:54:06   #
jlward1946 Loc: kingsport tn.
 
I have a d7200 for sale ask 550.00 dollars the shutter count. 789.

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Feb 11, 2019 17:38:42   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
fourlocks wrote:
I had the same dilemma when choosing between the D5500 and the D7200. Like you seem to be, I was an "enthusiast" with a limited budget although I could afford either body. The D3200, D5500 and D7200 all contain the same 24.2 MP CMOS sensor so there's nothing to be gained in that area. As you move from the 3200, to 5500, to 7200 you get more capabilities but you need to compare them and decide if you
actually need those additional capabilities at your level.

UHH advice is usually to spend any extra money on "good glass." I liked the D5500's compact size, light weight and touch screen so I opted for the "lesser" D5500 and purchased a good Nikon 18 - 200mm lens. I never regretted that decision.
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Feb 11, 2019 22:46:14   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
grahamfourth wrote:
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D3200. My go-to lenses are a Nikon 40mm Macro lens for insects and flowers, and a Nikon 70-300mm for birds and other distant animals. I don't often have the finances to upgrade, so I need to make good choices when I do. As I consider my options based on the kind of photography I do, it seems my best choices now are either to upgrade my macro lens to one with a longer working distance (such as the Nikon 85mm macro) so I can be further away from my subjects, or upgrade my camera to a Nikon D7200, since the cost of both is similar right now (better telephoto lenses are way out of my price range, so that is not an option at this point).
I think I have a pretty good idea of the improvements I will get from the 85mm lens, but I am less clear what type of improvement I can expect in going to a D7200. I have read reviews that indicate there is a substantial improvement in going to the D7200, but it is not entirely clear to me how the improvements will flesh out. I would appreciate any advice people can give me regarding whether choosing a new lens or a new camera will provide a bigger improvement for my photography. Thank you all in advance for your input, and for taking the time to read this post.
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D... (show quote)


I think it's a much simpler matter than other posters have indicated. Is there anything your camera DOESN'T do that you need. Are your images of good quality? If your answers are No and Yes respectively, you don't need to upgrade. Save your money. Every dollar you don't spend is the equivalent of tax-free income.

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Feb 12, 2019 06:45:41   #
Boris Ekner Loc: From Sweden, living in Guatemala
 
grahamfourth wrote:
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D3200. My go-to lenses are a Nikon 40mm Macro lens for insects and flowers, and a Nikon 70-300mm for birds and other distant animals. I don't often have the finances to upgrade, so I need to make good choices when I do. As I consider my options based on the kind of photography I do, it seems my best choices now are either to upgrade my macro lens to one with a longer working distance (such as the Nikon 85mm macro) so I can be further away from my subjects, or upgrade my camera to a Nikon D7200, since the cost of both is similar right now (better telephoto lenses are way out of my price range, so that is not an option at this point).
I think I have a pretty good idea of the improvements I will get from the 85mm lens, but I am less clear what type of improvement I can expect in going to a D7200. I have read reviews that indicate there is a substantial improvement in going to the D7200, but it is not entirely clear to me how the improvements will flesh out. I would appreciate any advice people can give me regarding whether choosing a new lens or a new camera will provide a bigger improvement for my photography. Thank you all in advance for your input, and for taking the time to read this post.
I do mostly wildlife photography and use a Nikon D... (show quote)


Better/sharper lenses are always to prefer to better camera bodies.

Look at Tokina 100mm f/2.8 Macro. It is considered one of the sharpest available and at a very reasonable price. You’ll find them used on eBay from $255, or new from $335.

Tokina 100mm Review:
https://www.lenstip.com/index.html?test=obiektywu&test_ob=21

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Feb 12, 2019 14:38:16   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
ronf78155 wrote:
Id go with better glass all the time.......camera bodies are upgraded and changed with new frills monthly but a really good lens will last forever.



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Feb 12, 2019 17:02:28   #
augieg27 Loc: Central California
 
fourlocks wrote:
I had the same dilemma when choosing between the D5500 and the D7200. Like you seem to be, I was an "enthusiast" with a limited budget although I could afford either body. The D3200, D5500 and D7200 all contain the same 24.2 MP CMOS sensor so there's nothing to be gained in that area. As you move from the 3200, to 5500, to 7200 you get more capabilities but you need to compare them and decide if you
actually need those additional capabilities at your level.

UHH advice is usually to spend any extra money on "good glass." I liked the D5500's compact size, light weight and touch screen so I opted for the "lesser" D5500 and purchased a good Nikon 18 - 200mm lens. I never regretted that decision.
I had the same dilemma when choosing between the D... (show quote)


I have exactly the same gear and am happy. The 18-200mm is my one to go and traveling lens.

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