More facts (Page 2): Ummm, Adam was not in a womans womb and he had no life at all, no breath and no heartbeat, don't conflate the two because you are just making a fool out of...

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kd7eir wrote:

Like it or not, GOD says that life begins at BREATH, NOT at conception.

Stop LYING about what God said and stands for. READ the Bible that you CLAIM to love. Until a breath is taken, life has not begun according to GOD, but then what does GOD know better than you, right? A false prophet is all that you are.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:7

Ummm, Adam was not in a womans womb and he had no life at all, no breath and no heartbeat, don't conflate the two because you are just making a fool out of yourself.....AGAIN!

Exodus 21:22
"If men who are fighting strike a pregnant woman and her child is born prematurely, but there is no further injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband demands and as the court allows. But if a serious injury results, then you must require a life for a life—" eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

Jeremiah 20:17
"Because he did not k**l me before birth, So that my mother would have been my grave, And her womb ever pregnant."

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."

Luke 1:41
"When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

kd7eir wrote:

Like it or not, GOD says that life begins at BREATH, NOT at conception.

Stop LYING about what God said and stands for. READ the Bible that you CLAIM to love. Until a breath is taken, life has not begun according to GOD, but then what does GOD know better than you, right? A false prophet is all that you are.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:7

For someone who claims such knowledge you seem to go far out of your way to squirm your way to achieve acceptance from others.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

RixPix wrote:

I cannot understand why people continue to propagate the myths of religions. It's really ludicrous to actually believe the Bible or Quran or any of the other myths that are force fed to people when they are young and cannot think for themselves.

Well I don't know, for someone who cannot understand the myths of religion you seem to propagate more than your share of mythology with the progressive dribble you seem to worship.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Vietnam Vet wrote:

He says he's an atheist.

That’s hard to believe....he’s so wrapped up in arguing with the Christians that it actually is HIS religion!

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

kd7eir wrote:

Like it or not, GOD says that life begins at BREATH, NOT at conception.

Stop LYING about what God said and stands for. READ the Bible that you CLAIM to love. Until a breath is taken, life has not begun according to GOD, but then what does GOD know better than you, right? A false prophet is all that you are.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:7

Creation of man literally is different than conception. Conception is was perpetuates the species.
Nice try.... wrong again...

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

RixPix wrote:

I cannot understand why people continue to propagate the myths of religions. It's really ludicrous to actually believe the Bible or Quran or any of the other myths that are force fed to people when they are young and cannot think for themselves.

Equally ridiculous to continue to argue about something that cannot be proven, one way or another. People will believe what they want and no religious beliefs will be changed here.

Unless Y'all love to snarl at each other over pointless crap. If that's the case, then have at it.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Bazbo wrote:

Equally ridiculous to continue to argue about something that cannot be proven, one way or another. People will believe what they want and no religious beliefs will be changed here.

Unless Y'all love to snarl at each other over pointless crap. If that's the case, then have at it.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA

This atheist/agnostic believes there is a power/god but not the one of the bible which in my opinion is a book of adult fairy tales that has been passed of as fact for so long it has been interpreted - by the gullible masses as t***h.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Harvey wrote:

This atheist/agnostic believes there is a power/god but not the one of the bible which in my opinion is a book of adult fairy tales that has been passed of as fact for so long it has been interpreted - by the gullible masses as t***h.

I understand, sort of like the progressives new "Green Agenda" story.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

LWW wrote:

Yet another lie.

Biblically, other than Adam the first man, the quickening ... first movement ... is the beginning of life and when the soul has entered the body.

https://www.naves-topical-bible.com/QUICKENING.html

I won't enter into your religious argument, but the argument has no business in our laws. I'm sure there are Christians who believe at least as much as you, who disagree with you.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Rose42 wrote:

I wonder...are you deliberately taking verses out ... (show quote)

So much for free will.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Rose42 wrote:

It doesn't matter. The OP has never manned up to being wrong before and he won't this time either.

Reminds me of someone

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

thom w wrote:

I won't enter into your religious argument, but the argument has no business in our laws. I'm sure there are Christians who believe at least as much as you, who disagree with you.

Tommy, you haven’t a clue what I believe ... and my argument was not a religious one in this thread.

My argument was that the OP, and their argument, was full of feces and devoid of t***h.

if one wants to argue that a document does or does not say something, one should have knowledge of said document.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Rose42 wrote:

All the atheists I've come across were really agnostics.

I'm agnostic, but that doesn't mean I'm not certain about the god of the bible. I allow there could be some force I'm unaware of, though I'm very doubtful. I absolutely don't believe in the god of the bible so Christians tend to call me atheist. I believe there are true atheists, though I believe to be a true atheist one has to either be closed minded, or know a lot more than I do. Both are possible.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

LWW wrote:

Tommy, you haven’t a clue what I believe ... and my argument was not a religious one in this thread.

My argument was that the OP, and their argument, was full of feces and devoid of t***h.

if one wants to argue that a document does or does not say something, one should have knowledge of said document.

As soon as you begin talking about god putting a soul in a body, your argument is religious.

One definition of quickening is the stage in a pregnancy when movements can first be felt. It would seem to be the applicable one in your attempt to say when a soul enters the body, but I will not argue religion with you. I will freely share what I believe. I will not tell you what you should believe.

Oh I forgot, you read Greek. Wh**ever that's worth.