Premature Exhaustion from your LP-E6??? ...
Chris T wrote:
I bought the 60D in February, 2012, Bob … so, that's what, now … seven years, even - huh?
In your menu under the little wrench head section check the battery info page. It has a charging performance gauge. It doesn't indicate charge. It indicates ability to take and hold a charge. One to three green bars indicate battery condition. A good battery will show three, a poor battery one, or maybe even none.
Wouldn't be surprised if your battery's life has run it's course, considering that it is 7 yrs old. It is always good to have a spare, so I suggest you buy one anyway. The LP-E6 has been replaced by the LP-E6N. They are interchangeable. Don't be afraid of good quality aftermarket batteries, such as the ones sold by Adorama or B&H. Even Canon does not make their own batteries. They are made by Panasonic. My 2 aftermarket batteries perform as well or better then my 3 Canon LP-E6N's and have outlasted several Canon batteries while still getting top rating on the performance gauge.
Edit: If you want to check your charger then give your battery a full charge, put it in your camera, and check the battery info page. In addition to the performance gauge it will also show percent of charge. Freshly charged battery should show 100%.
Edit #2: Lithium batteries should not heat when charging. If it does, get rid of it. It will heat somewhat, depending on discharge rate, when being used. Fully charge it. Let it sit for an hour or so and feel it. If it is warm it is discharging internally and should be discarded.
davidrb
Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
Chris T wrote:
Is this a survivable malady, or does it require long-term care? … Do you have a cure? … If so, what is it?
Chris, either the battery is on it's last legs OR your camera is actually drawing more power than you realized. LP-E6s are very popular for the newer Canons. Some of them (5D MkIV) are power-hogs when all of their systems are on and running. The above mentioned Canon has GPS the offers two different modes of operation, one eats power ALL the time. Using touch screens also adds to the power drain. Two different methods have proven semi-successful in solving the problem: 1) Reduce (maybe drastically) power consumption. 2) Buy more batteries. Not really a cure, just an acceptable solution that worked for me. Good luck.
Chris T wrote:
Is this a survivable malady, or does it require long-term care? … Do you have a cure? … If so, what is it?
I don't know what you are talking about, a lot of my LP-E6's are over 10 years old, and I can not tell a difference to new ones!
cjc2
Loc: Hellertown PA
For all the leaps in technology, not that much has happened in the battery world. I agree with the concept of more fully (NOT completely) discharging Li batteries upon occasion as well. I also have a high end Li battery that just one day 'up and died'. Never knew why as I have older batteries and I rotate use. Just a mystery of life as it sits under my monitor to (try to) remind me to always take an extra battery. Best of luck.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
miked46 wrote:
run it down so that it is dead, then recharge, I have not had this happen to a CANON LP-E6, only 3rd party once in a while
Okay, Mike … I'll try that … I've never bought any 3rd party batteries for ANY of my Canons. It's indicated in the manuals for the Canon EOS Rebels (2) Canon Powershots (2) and the EOS 60D - use of 3rd party batteries will void the warranty … so, all I've ever bought is Canon batteries for all five dig cams ….
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
cjc2 wrote:
For all the leaps in technology, not that much has happened in the battery world. I agree with the concept of more fully (NOT completely) discharging Li batteries upon occasion as well. I also have a high end Li battery that just one day 'up and died'. Never knew why as I have older batteries and I rotate use. Just a mystery of life as it sits under my monitor to (try to) remind me to always take an extra battery. Best of luck.
Chris … I always have a spare, for every camera I own, tucked securely away in the zip pocket of every bag.
Yes, there does need to be some new and innovative battery designs. Perhaps, with a reading on the side of the cell - which indicates the length of energy left (or the amount already depleted.) That'd be nice - huh?
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
LFingar wrote:
In your menu under the little wrench head section check the battery info page. It has a charging performance gauge. It doesn't indicate charge. It indicates ability to take and hold a charge. One to three green bars indicate battery condition. A good battery will show three, a poor battery one, or maybe even none.
Wouldn't be surprised if your battery's life has run it's course, considering that it is 7 yrs old. It is always good to have a spare, so I suggest you buy one anyway. The LP-E6 has been replaced by the LP-E6N. They are interchangeable. Don't be afraid of good quality aftermarket batteries, such as the ones sold by Adorama or B&H. Even Canon does not make their own batteries. They are made by Panasonic. My 2 aftermarket batteries perform as well or better then my 3 Canon LP-E6N's and have outlasted several Canon batteries while still getting top rating on the performance gauge.
Edit: If you want to check your charger then give your battery a full charge, put it in your camera, and check the battery info page. In addition to the performance gauge it will also show percent of charge. Freshly charged battery should show 100%.
Edit #2: Lithium batteries should not heat when charging. If it does, get rid of it. It will heat somewhat, depending on discharge rate, when being used. Fully charge it. Let it sit for an hour or so and feel it. If it is warm it is discharging internally and should be discarded.
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Oh, wow, L … I'd no idea there was a way to check for depleted batteries. Thanks very much for the tip!
Which aftermarket batteries do you use? … Watsons (B&H) or Power2000 (Adorama) ????
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
speters wrote:
I don't know what you are talking about, a lot of my LP-E6's are over 10 years old, and I can not tell a difference to new ones!
There ISN'T any difference, S … but the latest ones are designated LP-E6N … so you'll know they're (N)ew, now … when you get them … isn't THAT neat???
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Maybe, Jerry … I could move to another state? … There's an idea - huh? … er - Which state is this Battery University in? … Maybe I could move to THAT one!!!!
Thanks for the link, Jerry …
Chris T wrote:
Oh, okay, LWW … I'll try that … see if that takes care of it …
It seems, every time, I return to the 60D (after a few hours, or a few days) - it's dead, again …
Could NOT figure out what makes it discharge, constantly ….
Thanks, LWW …
Try this Chris! Charge your battery up. Don't put it in the camera. Check the battery after a few days. If it's dead it's the battery and if its not your 60D is draining the battery even when it's off. That would be a more serious issue.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
davidrb wrote:
Chris, either the battery is on it's last legs OR your camera is actually drawing more power than you realized. LP-E6s are very popular for the newer Canons. Some of them (5D MkIV) are power-hogs when all of their systems are on and running. The above mentioned Canon has GPS the offers two different modes of operation, one eats power ALL the time. Using touch screens also adds to the power drain. Two different methods have proven semi-successful in solving the problem: 1) Reduce (maybe drastically) power consumption. 2) Buy more batteries. Not really a cure, just an acceptable solution that worked for me. Good luck.
Chris, either the battery is on it's last legs OR ... (
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David … I'd not realized the latest FF Canon entry had the same power supply as my 10-year-old 60D!!!!
Mine does NOT have the Touch-Screen yours has, but, it still eats up the power, somehow ….
I do have two back-ups … tucked away in the bag for it … it's not a problem, related to a specific battery - they all do it. I keep thinking I may have left the switch on, but, that's not it - it's always off when I pull it from the bag. It's a mystery to me. I was hoping someone here would put their finger on it … we'll see!!!
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
BebuLamar wrote:
Try this Chris! Charge your battery up. Don't put it in the camera. Check the battery after a few days. If it's dead it's the battery and if its not your 60D is draining the battery even when it's off. That would be a more serious issue.
Hey, now … that's a neat idea, Bebu … one way of checking for battery exhaustion - huh?
Thanks!!!!!
Chris T wrote:
Okay, Mike … I'll try that … I've never bought any 3rd party batteries for ANY of my Canons. It's indicated in the manuals for the Canon EOS Rebels (2) Canon Powershots (2) and the EOS 60D - use of 3rd party batteries will void the warranty … so, all I've ever bought is Canon batteries for all five dig cams ….
3rd party batteries do not automatically void the warranty of any Canon. The warranty only states that the use of any non-Canon part or accessory will void the warranty if that particular item is the cause of the damage. Unlike previous battery types, Lithium Ion batteries rarely cause any damage. A defective one can swell and be difficult to remove, but, that is usually the extent of it.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
mikegreenwald wrote:
I've had it happen with aftermarket batteries, but never with Canon batteries up to around eight years old. Just the same, any battery can develop an internal short. As stated above, try another battery in the camera: if the same thing happens, the short or partial short is in the camera. If not, the battery is bad.
If the camera shows a full charge when the battery is inserted, it can't be the charger.
As long as the charger lights up as soon as you plug it in, then, Mike - the charger's good - right?
If I have a short IN the camera, is that something I can fix, or do I need to send it to Canon?
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