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Feb 7, 2019 20:43:49   #
Volk359 Loc: Fairbanks, AK
 
Greetings All,

It’s time to upgrade my laptop so I’ve been shopping around doing doing a lot of research. The newer trend is to include an SSD drive along with the old fashioned hard drive. The HDs are in the terabyte range or more and the SSDs are ~250 gig or so. I’d love an SSD for PP photos, especially when they get larger and cheaper, but the reviews I’ve seen seem to imply that the OS is set up so the SSDs are only for installing programs and the HDs are for storage.

If that’s the case then you could fill up an SSD that size pretty quick, depending on the programs and the number of them you have.

My thought was to install programs on the HD and store photos on the SSD. An external SSD is certainly an option but I travel a fair amount, hence the need of the laptop, and I’d rather not drag a bunch of auxiliary equipment along.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks

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Feb 7, 2019 21:07:48   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
How much storage do you need?
My six year old laptop has a 600Gb hard drive and is only 1/3 full.
125Gb of photos (18 thousand+ files).
I wouldn't store any working files on an external to a laptop. Too many pieces parts to worry about.
(My main computer, a desktop, has a 2Tb Hard drive.)

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Feb 7, 2019 21:15:45   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Volk359 wrote:
Greetings All,

It’s time to upgrade my laptop so I’ve been shopping around doing doing a lot of research. The newer trend is to include an SSD drive along with the old fashioned hard drive. The HDs are in the terabyte range or more and the SSDs are ~250 gig or so. I’d love an SSD for PP photos, especially when they get larger and cheaper, but the reviews I’ve seen seem to imply that the OS is set up so the SSDs are only for installing programs and the HDs are for storage.

If that’s the case then you could fill up an SSD that size pretty quick, depending on the programs and the number of them you have.

My thought was to install programs on the HD and store photos on the SSD. An external SSD is certainly an option but I travel a fair amount, hence the need of the laptop, and I’d rather not drag a bunch of auxiliary equipment along.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Greetings All, br br It’s time to upgrade my lapt... (show quote)


If you had unlimited funds, you’d put everything on SSD, but since they are still more expensive in terms of $/TB (but the cheapest storage you can buy in terms of $/performance), then the usual strategy is to put the OS and applications on SSD and your photos on spinning disk due to cost. Of course, it depends on much much data you have. You want the OS, applications and scratch space on the SSD as a minimum because those are the clients that access disk most often. I would opt for at least 512GB SSD (and more is better) - 256GB is marginal. I use only SSD, but my total data storage is less than 2TB, so it’s not only cost effective but very fast. In the end, many applications are I/O bound, so it’s a good investment to buy the fastest storage you can afford.

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Feb 7, 2019 21:20:30   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
Volk359 wrote:
Greetings All,

It’s time to upgrade my laptop so I’ve been shopping around doing doing a lot of research. The newer trend is to include an SSD drive along with the old fashioned hard drive. The HDs are in the terabyte range or more and the SSDs are ~250 gig or so. I’d love an SSD for PP photos, especially when they get larger and cheaper, but the reviews I’ve seen seem to imply that the OS is set up so the SSDs are only for installing programs and the HDs are for storage.

If that’s the case then you could fill up an SSD that size pretty quick, depending on the programs and the number of them you have.

My thought was to install programs on the HD and store photos on the SSD. An external SSD is certainly an option but I travel a fair amount, hence the need of the laptop, and I’d rather not drag a bunch of auxiliary equipment along.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Greetings All, br br It’s time to upgrade my lapt... (show quote)


Just something to think about. I purchased an HP a few years ago with a 512gb SSD. I filled it up within a year and had to take it in and get the C:/ drive replaced with a regular, but larger, hard drive. Looking at my C:/ drive, I am currently using a little over 650 gb. Keep that in mind before purchase.
Check your c:/ drive to see how much you are using before you decide.

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Feb 7, 2019 21:51:09   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Volk359 wrote:
Greetings All,

It’s time to upgrade my laptop so I’ve been shopping around doing doing a lot of research. The newer trend is to include an SSD drive along with the old fashioned hard drive. The HDs are in the terabyte range or more and the SSDs are ~250 gig or so. I’d love an SSD for PP photos, especially when they get larger and cheaper, but the reviews I’ve seen seem to imply that the OS is set up so the SSDs are only for installing programs and the HDs are for storage.

If that’s the case then you could fill up an SSD that size pretty quick, depending on the programs and the number of them you have.

My thought was to install programs on the HD and store photos on the SSD. An external SSD is certainly an option but I travel a fair amount, hence the need of the laptop, and I’d rather not drag a bunch of auxiliary equipment along.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Greetings All, br br It’s time to upgrade my lapt... (show quote)
I am an Apple guy. I don't know your budget?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1423766-REG/apple_z0v0_mr9333_bh_macbook_pro_i7_2_2g.html

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Feb 8, 2019 06:20:22   #
Tonyhh
 
https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/06/mac-keychain-exploit/

or if you're a masochist, check this out:

https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/06/iphone-session-replay-screenshots/won't even mention ancient tech, failing keyboards, data cables to screen failures, etc etc

for one of the highest priced laptops
to coin a phrase from WW2 regarding USA troops in Brisbane:

over priced, under powered and alas, over here

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Feb 8, 2019 07:06:17   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Agree with512 go for the SSD Drive and use it for programs. Then at least a 2 TB HHD for storage

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Feb 8, 2019 07:45:35   #
BebuLamar
 
Volk359 wrote:
Greetings All,

It’s time to upgrade my laptop so I’ve been shopping around doing doing a lot of research. The newer trend is to include an SSD drive along with the old fashioned hard drive. The HDs are in the terabyte range or more and the SSDs are ~250 gig or so. I’d love an SSD for PP photos, especially when they get larger and cheaper, but the reviews I’ve seen seem to imply that the OS is set up so the SSDs are only for installing programs and the HDs are for storage.

If that’s the case then you could fill up an SSD that size pretty quick, depending on the programs and the number of them you have.

My thought was to install programs on the HD and store photos on the SSD. An external SSD is certainly an option but I travel a fair amount, hence the need of the laptop, and I’d rather not drag a bunch of auxiliary equipment along.

Thoughts anyone?

Thanks
Greetings All, br br It’s time to upgrade my lapt... (show quote)


I only need enough storage space for the trip. When I got home I transfer the images to other computer, drives and delete off the laptop.

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Feb 8, 2019 08:05:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I only need enough storage space for the trip. When I got home I transfer the images to other computer, drives and delete off the laptop.


That's what I'll be doing if and when my HD on the laptop gets too populated.

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Feb 8, 2019 08:21:17   #
Plieku69 Loc: The Gopher State, south end
 
I just went through this yesterday. My beloved Toshiba no longer has enough RAM.
After looking at several models it came down to device inputs. Places to plug in external drives, scanner, card slots.
The latest thing is 1, just 1, USB-C input. I need to 2 regular USB inputs and an SD card slot.
If this is important, look closely at what you are tempted to buy.

Ken

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Feb 8, 2019 08:47:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Plieku69 wrote:
I just went through this yesterday. My beloved Toshiba no longer has enough RAM.
After looking at several models it came down to device inputs. Places to plug in external drives, scanner, card slots.
The latest thing is 1, just 1, USB-C input. I need to 2 regular USB inputs and an SD card slot.
If this is important, look closely at what you are tempted to buy.

Ken


I have 3 regular USB inputs and an SD card slot, and will definitely be required on the next laptop!

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Feb 8, 2019 09:10:42   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
From AskLeo, who went through the process of buying a new computer -a laptop.

https://askleo.com/the-journey-to-my-new-computer-choices/?awt_l=9nnPg&awt_m=IsAAZ7DRypdfbL&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=20190205&utm_medium=email&utm_content=featured

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Feb 8, 2019 09:40:27   #
spraguead Loc: Boston, MA
 
put the OS, and your programs on the SSD. Photoshop in particular needs to read/write to the hard drive a lot while you work on an image. You will also experience much shorter waits when you start up your computer.

For a second drive, consider it being outside of the laptop, and keep your photo libraries there. I use a small RAID (4 drives, but there are fairly cheap ones out there with 2 drives) also have backup drive, this can be big and slow and set your system to backup daily.

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Feb 8, 2019 11:10:59   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
a few months ago i put a 1tb ssd into my laptop...it made a hege difference...cost over $200
2 weeks ago i put a 1tb ssd into my wifes 6 year old laptop for $150. Her laptop runs fast and she loves the difference...for what she does it is perfect.

In my computer i wouldn't put less than 1tb into it...I have a lot of pictures and videos on it...i edit both so I need plenty of room...I do move stuff onto my network drives and back up to a second drive...

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Feb 8, 2019 12:38:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
If you had unlimited funds, you’d put everything on SSD, but since they are still more expensive in terms of $/TB (but the cheapest storage you can buy in terms of $/performance), then the usual strategy is to put the OS and applications on SSD and your photos on spinning disk due to cost. Of course, it depends on much much data you have. You want the OS, applications and scratch space on the SSD as a minimum because those are the clients that access disk most often. I would opt for at least 512GB SSD (and more is better) - 256GB is marginal. I use only SSD, but my total data storage is less than 2TB, so it’s not only cost effective but very fast. In the end, many applications are I/O bound, so it’s a good investment to buy the fastest storage you can afford.
If you had unlimited funds, you’d put everything o... (show quote)




Tri-X describes accepted best practice.

I use an upgraded iMac with 16GB RAM, 2 TB SSD, and five large external 7200 RPM hard drives. Despite a six-year old motherboard, Quad Core i5, and on-board graphics, it responds nearly instantly, because most of the work I do is I/O intensive. Video rendering is many, many times faster than it was when I used a 5400 RPM OEM 1 TB startup drive.

I will never go back to conventional hard drives as startup drives.

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