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Feb 6, 2019 11:30:40   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
CO wrote:
That's a beautiful image. The composition, lighting, and shutter speed are great. The colors seem to be over saturated though.

Thank you , the lighting was off the hook never witnessest anything like it, the 6 stop ND Filter I used has quite a yellow tint to it but left it because I thought it looked good.

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Feb 6, 2019 11:52:03   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
In the darkroom you had contorl of the results, now you tell a computer what you want and get it, very little true skill required, IMHO.


You are definitely welcome to your opinion and yes if you don’t like it it does not effect me, in fact it is quite interesting.
When I started photography, computers and internet did not exists and we would follow the zone system, or expose for shadows and develops for highlights now I find the opposite I expose for the highlights and develop for the highlights, but all black and white looked horrendous until they were so called cooked.
It is still fun! It takes patience and it takes practice, and it takes skill especially to shoot into the sun while standing in fast moving water in freezing weather. I am no Ansel but I imagine he would disagree on your no (cook) regimen. But I do have images of my dog sooc though no one seems to be buying those hmmm.
Cheers

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Feb 6, 2019 11:53:09   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
Over cooked, what happened to sooc?


Am I in the sooc thread?

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Feb 6, 2019 11:54:26   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Silverman wrote:
Very Creative image, timing is so important in Photography, you had patience for exactly what you wanted, and the results are stunning indeed. Great effort.


That is very kind thank you, I felt like I finally got what I wanted.

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Feb 6, 2019 11:54:42   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
karno wrote:
Am I in the sooc thread?



I like it a lot.

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Feb 6, 2019 11:58:40   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Geezer Bill wrote:
I think sooc left with a whole bunch of film cameras!


Agreed, I still on occasion get images that anything I do to it makes them look worse.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:00:02   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
jaymatt wrote:
That’s nice!


Many thanks

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Feb 6, 2019 12:02:11   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
kpmac wrote:
It might be slightly "overcooked" but that is what makes the image stand out. In some cases, this one, for instance, that is the look we choose for an image. Sooc advocates are a bit narrow in their views of what is "real photography". I am not saying overcook everything. But, not every saturated image is a bad one. I really like this one. Great job.


Thank you, it is quite easy to reduce the saturation, I found I kinda liked the cast the ND filter gave.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:10:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Geezer Bill wrote:
I think sooc left with a whole bunch of film cameras!


Especially since you can set cameras to do "pre-processing" in camera.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:13:06   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Longshadow wrote:

Especially since you can set cameras to do "pre-processing" in camera.


That’s called jpg.

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Feb 6, 2019 12:37:27   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
frjack wrote:
Nice work. There is a surrealistic quality that is intriguing that might put the viewer a little off-balance. Not a bad thing. There is a dreamlike quality to it. You captured the sun at just the right moment. A minute or to later and the starburst would not have extended just to the edge of the water.

In answer to your question, SOOC means straight out of camera, i.e. a jpg determined by the camera. It is oftentimes used as the intro to a pis sing contest most easily understood if you imagine John Wayne's voice (thumbs tucked into belt), "Ya' ain't no real photographer if ya' don't shoot SOOC." (You can also substitute a camera name, full-frame, etc.) Processing is necessary if shooting RAW. In trying to convey the mood one felt while taking the photo processing is even more necessary. Our eyes pick up infinitely more variations of color and tone than any processor ever will. Thus, to show it as it truly was (which is ultimately impossible but we may get closer than a camera determined program) we have to tweak. Tweaking is a lot easier and accurate if the original is in RAW.

Converting from color to black and white might be considered the original "overcooking." Conversion to black and white is also necessary if one wants to convey certain moods (daytime graveyard photos always look better in black and white. Too much green from the the grass.) Keep shooting and posting. Ignore hostility. The revered Ansel Adams (John Wayne again, "Bow yer' head when you say that name.") processed the bejabbers out of his photos. Somewhere in the Smithsonian one can find a print made from the negative of the famous photo of Bridal Veil Falls next to Adams's print. The original without the darkroom work done by Adams looks like something Lucy and Ethel might have taken on their cross-country trip using an early version of a Polaroid camera (don't forget the fixative Lucy).
Nice work. There is a surrealistic quality that i... (show quote)


I really appreciate your words of wisdom and especially your humor,
Brilliant, thank you

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Feb 6, 2019 12:40:33   #
Genessi Loc: SoCal
 
Stunning!

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Feb 6, 2019 15:26:31   #
karno Loc: Chico ,California
 
Genessi wrote:
Stunning!


Very kind thank you !

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Feb 6, 2019 16:29:13   #
TBerwick Loc: Houston, Texas
 
I like this image. To say that pp doesn't require any skill is a bunch of hooey.

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Feb 6, 2019 20:00:44   #
alby Loc: very eastern pa.
 
different..... kind of really like it.

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