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Feb 6, 2019 12:56:14   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
lancewit wrote:
What are the benefits or non benefits of using a UV Filter.
I have taken identical photo`s with the filter on and the filter off.
Can`t seem to see any difference when viewing my photo`s.
Help please.
Also, Thank you in anticipation for any replies.
Regards Lance Whittington.

UV filters are used to combat certain color contaminations. There are many different ones, each is rated for a specific wave length and color temp! You chose based on that, and yes they are just as useful in digital, as they are when shooting film, albeit digital sensor's are a bit less sensitive to UV light!

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Feb 6, 2019 13:11:37   #
latebloomer Loc: Topeka, KS
 
You might want to consider doing a search on UV FILTERS. You will find a plethora of strongly held opinions while sorting facts from BS will be a challenge. It is sort of like asking which religion would be best for you.

You might want to Google the YouTube where a guy purposely scratches the front element of a lens and compares pictures taken with and without the scratches.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:12:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
speters wrote:
UV filters are used to combat certain color contaminations. There are many different ones, each is rated for a specific wave length and color temp! You chose based on that, and yes they are just as useful in digital, as they are when shooting film, albeit digital sensor's are a bit less sensitive to UV light!


This is all very true.
But once the photo has gone through PS those nuances are far gone and forgotten.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:29:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
latebloomer wrote:
You might want to consider doing a search on UV FILTERS. You will find a plethora of strongly held opinions while sorting facts from BS will be a challenge. It is sort of like asking which religion would be best for you.

You might want to Google the YouTube where a guy purposely scratches the front element of a lens and compares pictures taken with and without the scratches.


So it's ok to scratch the front lens in order to prove protection is not needed?

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Feb 6, 2019 13:32:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
I use a filter because I never have to clean the front element.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:35:25   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
lancewit wrote:
What are the benefits or non benefits of using a UV Filter.
I have taken identical photo`s with the filter on and the filter off.
Can`t seem to see any difference when viewing my photo`s.
Help please.
Also, Thank you in anticipation for any replies.
Regards Lance Whittington.


I did a bunch of tests with filters on and off, comparing at 100% magnification. And this with moderately priced filters. The results were:

1. No perceptible loss of sharpness in any case.

2. Generally no perceptible loss of contrast, except some slight haloing around extremely bright sources of light shot head on.

3. In very rare cases of extremely bright point sources of light, one weak extra flare.

My personal practice is to keep UV or MC clear filters on every lens, occasionally removing them if I have the sun in the frame. I collect vintage lenses and almost every one exhibits some cleaning marks. It is easiest to replace a filter than a front element.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:42:38   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
lancewit wrote:
What are the benefits or non benefits of using a UV Filter.
I have taken identical photo`s with the filter on and the filter off.
Can`t seem to see any difference when viewing my photo`s.
Help please.
Also, Thank you in anticipation for any replies.
Regards Lance Whittington.


Glass filter for protection, perhaps.

UV; i.e., # 0, 1A, 1B filters are for FILM. Digital cameras have built-in UV filters over the sensor. There are plain optical glass filters for protective use but I personally don't see their difference from UV.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:44:55   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
kymarto wrote:
I did a bunch of tests with filters on and off, comparing at 100% magnification. And this with moderately priced filters. The results were:

1. No perceptible loss of sharpness in any case.

2. Generally no perceptible loss of contrast, except some slight haloing around extremely bright sources of light shot head on.

3. In very rare cases of extremely bright point sources of light, one weak extra flare.

My personal practice is to keep UV or MC clear filters on every lens, occasionally removing them if I have the sun in the frame. I collect vintage lenses and almost every one exhibits some cleaning marks. It is easiest to replace a filter than a front element.
I did a bunch of tests with filters on and off, co... (show quote)


I shy away from used vintage lenses with cleaning marks. I prefer to never touch mine with more than air or hair.

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Feb 6, 2019 13:49:52   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
This is a summary of the "best practices" used by top working pros who seek optimal technical quality.

> There is no optical advantage below about a mile above sea level, unless you use film. Digital sensors don't pick up a lot of UV. There isn't enough UV at low altitudes to affect digital exposures.

> A UV filter is habitually sold by camera stores, because the store probably makes more money on filters than they do on camera or lens sales. These days, they should be selling a *clear glass* "filter" (lens protector) for the reasons they tell you that you should use a UV filter...

> Although a clear glass filter is better for lens protection than a UV filter (on DIGITAL camera lenses), in a pinch, a UV filter can protect your lens from flying debris, splashed liquids, sand, many drops, and other mishaps. It removes about 1/6 of an f/stop of light. Clear glass removes about half that.

> For night time street photography or astrophotography, or any time you have a lot of point source lights in a scene, REMOVE all filters if the situation makes it safe to do so. Filters can cause light to bounce off the front surface of a lens, reflect off the back side of the filter, and then be picked up by the lens in a different place. This can cause a weird "double image" flare, halos, or ghosting.

> Know that any filter can add significant flare to scenes with specular reflections (mirror-like reflections of light sources off of metal or glass or liquids) or light sources visible in a scene.

> Use filters when you need them for a specific purpose. Avoid them when you know it is safe to do so.

> ALWAYS use a lens shade.

> Use a clear glass filter, or a circular polarizer, or a neutral density filter, when the situation calls for it. At 6000' or higher, use a UV filter.

> Use special effects filters only if you can't get the effect in post-processing. Post-processing options are almost infinite these days. Recording and developing raw files maximizes your options for different end uses.

In my film days, I carried up to 40 filters in my bag, for B&W effects, special effects, and color correcting various light sources for both Daylight and Tungsten balanced Ektachrome films.

> In the digital world, white balance and hue controls (in the camera and in post-processing software) get rid of the need for color correction filters.

> B&W images may be created from raw files in many different ways, with near-infinite variations, so the old red, yellow, orange, and green filters used at the camera are unnecessary — in fact, undesirable — for their former effects. Just record raw files and convert them EXACTLY the way you want them, in Lightroom and Photoshop or your choice of good post-processing software.

In short, UV filters play a very minor role in the digital world, unless you're in the mountains. CLEAR GLASS "filters" or lens protectors should be used instead, and only when needed for protection. Lens hoods should ALWAYS be used, unless you're using an extreme wide angle lens where vignetting might be an undesirable effect. The most common "effects" you can't get in post-processing are circular polarization, which darkens blue skies at right angles to the sun and removes glare from foliage and water, and neutral density, which allows wider apertures, or slower shutter speeds, or lower ISO, or some combination of those.
This is a summary of the "best practices"... (show quote)



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Feb 6, 2019 13:53:44   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Paul J. Svetlik wrote:
If you go to the altitude - let us say above 6000 Ft, take the UV filter with you or use the CPL filter.
UV rays are too strong there, making your photos washed out in a funny, blue way.



A sometimes needed filter for us from Colorado for scenics and landscapes.

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Feb 6, 2019 14:09:59   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I shy away from used vintage lenses with cleaning marks. I prefer to never touch mine with more than air or hair.


Many of my lenses are very old and very rare. It is often not possible to clean sticky residue or dirty moisture off lenses with air or a brush, so over the course of decades, unless you only use lenses in a clean room, you will have to clean them more thoroughly. Given the fact that decent multicoating clear filters make no appreciable difference in 99.9% of cases and I often work in harsh environments, I tend to always keep a filter on. It simply makes sense to protect the investment, as many lenses are worth multiple thousands of dollars.

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Feb 6, 2019 14:11:06   #
Bill P
 
billnikon wrote:
1. Their has not been a UV filter manufactured yet that IMPROVES image quality.
2. 99.9% of the lenses made do not come with UV filters, I wonder why lens manufactures don't include one, maybe they know something you should.
3. A lens hood provides the best protection for a lens and front element.
4. A UV filter does not prevent dust from reaching the front element of your lens, if you leave that front filter on and just clean the filter, dust WILL get on the front element and WILL degrade your images, and a residue will also form on the front element. You must take the UV filter off from time to time to clean your front element, so what is the point of putting it on.
5. In the winter when you go from a warm house to the cold outdoors, you will have to clean that filter cause condensation will form on it, but also, a little will form under the filter on your front element, how ever slight it will still degrade your images.
1. Their has not been a UV filter manufactured yet... (show quote)


I would beg to differ with what you have said, especially with the intensity of you anti filter messages. I'll comment one ash point:

1. This is massively inaccurate when shooting film at altitudes. But film is so old fashioned and no one uses it, do they.

2. The only lenses I have ever seen that came with UV filters were the ones from Nikon and Canon with the drop in filter slots. That's because the optical formulas were designed to include a piece of flat glass, But you're right most general purpose lenses don't come with one.

3. Not true. A lens hood wouldn't have protected the front element of a Hasselblad 50mm that got to close to a welder I was photographing. A UV fiilter would have. A hood wouldn't have helped when photographing airshows where dust was the order of the day. Shooting from the side of a fast moving tourist boat in Genoa, where there was spray everywhere wouldn't be helped by a a hood.

4. Dust MAY, not will. And a coating of what inside on the front element?

5. This isn't the effect of the filter, but of temperature and humidity. So it will happen with or without one. When you go out and condensation forms on your roont element do you remove it to clean the inner surface?

I don't routinely use UV filters, but I do keep them around when the lens hood isn't enough to get the job done. You need to understand that the world is a complex place and all things are not black and white. Embrace the shades of grey.

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Feb 6, 2019 15:01:33   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
Yes. I misspoke.
Pablo8 wrote:
What is there to adjust on a UV filter? Are you mixing 'adjustment' with a POLARIZING filter?

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Feb 6, 2019 15:08:51   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
scooter1 wrote:
Did you adjust your filter?


Would love to know how one can adjust a UV filter.

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Feb 6, 2019 15:09:55   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
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