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Feb 1, 2019 16:17:03   #
Bipod
 
tdekany had repeated claimed that because of the Olympus "High Resoltuion Mode"--
that takes 8 shots over an approximately 1 second period--format no longer matters.
Any format can be enlarged to any size, he says, so format no longer matters.

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?

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Feb 1, 2019 16:27:27   #
BebuLamar
 
Well it only works well if the subject doesn't move in that 1 second. Even then it's 80MP I think and it's still less than the 100MP Hasselblad. Besides, for better or worse the DOF is different.
I keep my so called FF camera because it's the same size as my film camera. I don't want different size.

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Feb 1, 2019 16:57:58   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
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Feb 1, 2019 17:30:24   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Bipod wrote:
tdekany had repeated claimed that because of the Olympus "High Resoltuion Mode"--
that takes 8 shots over an approximately 1 second period--format no longer matters.
Any format can be enlarged to any size, he says, so format no longer matters.

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?


Yes. No. It depends on the need. I wouldn't junk anything I had. I might trade it, if that made sense.

I use Micro 4/3 because it is right in the sweet spot of what I need to do, 98% of the time. For the other 2%, there are rental agencies.

Someone else may need a full frame, high megapixel count system, or a medium format system, or a large format sheet film camera, or an iPhone, or a pocket zoom camera... It just depends on what you want or need to photograph, what the budget is, what the objective is, how much you can lug around (or want to lug), who the audience is, and on and on.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the "pixel shift" schemes that make a high MP count image from four or eight smaller ones. They're only good for still life work. Movement causes weird artifacts. Wind can ruin a scene with trees and other movable things in it. But if you want to photograph the face of a Rolex watch and blow it up to ten feet by ten feet, so you see the texture in the metal, the high resolution mode might work. If you're trying to photograph gnats mating on the face of that watch, give up! You need a better solution.

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Feb 1, 2019 17:47:14   #
User ID
 
Bipod wrote:
..........

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?



Q1. Yes and no.

Q2. Yes and no.

Any replies disallowing either the "yes"
or the "no" are toadall BS.

But you knew that before you trolled ....

.

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Feb 1, 2019 18:26:30   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Bipod wrote:
tdekany had repeated claimed that because of the Olympus "High Resoltuion Mode"--
that takes 8 shots over an approximately 1 second period--format no longer matters.
Any format can be enlarged to any size, he says, so format no longer matters.

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?

It matters, if it matters to you! (and that's all that matters)!

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Feb 1, 2019 20:23:17   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Bipod wrote:
tdekany had repeated claimed that because of the Olympus "High Resoltuion Mode"--
that takes 8 shots over an approximately 1 second period--format no longer matters.
Any format can be enlarged to any size, he says, so format no longer matters.

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?


You can do the super resolution thing on full frame cameras (or any digital) and end up with 80mp images or higher like 144mp if you use a 36 mp camera. It was written up here a while back:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0727694641/here-s-how-to-pixel-shift-with-any-camera

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Feb 1, 2019 20:28:35   #
Bipod
 
Gene51 wrote:
You can do the super resolution thing on full frame cameras (or any digital) and end up with 80mp images or higher like 144mp if you use a 36 mp camera. It was written up here a while back:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0727694641/here-s-how-to-pixel-shift-with-any-camera




So while three teaspoons equals a tablespoon,
we don't thow away our tablespoons, do we?

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Feb 1, 2019 20:29:12   #
Bipod
 
User ID wrote:
Q1. Yes and no.

Q2. Yes and no.

Any replies disallowing either the "yes"
or the "no" are toadall BS.

But you knew that before you trolled ....

.

I never troll. But you knew that before you lied.

UserID, are you a sockpuppet operated by tdekany,
or are you just his groupie?

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Feb 1, 2019 20:32:27   #
BebuLamar
 
Bipod wrote:


So while three teaspoons equals a tablespoon,
we don't thow away our tablespoons, do we?


Now in this case I don't throw away the tablespoon but don't need it. Because I can always measure 3 teaspoons. I can't measure a teaspoon amount with a tablespoon.

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Feb 1, 2019 20:33:31   #
Bipod
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes. No. It depends on the need. I wouldn't junk anything I had. I might trade it, if that made sense.

I use Micro 4/3 because it is right in the sweet spot of what I need to do, 98% of the time. For the other 2%, there are rental agencies.

Someone else may need a full frame, high megapixel count system, or a medium format system, or a large format sheet film camera, or an iPhone, or a pocket zoom camera... It just depends on what you want or need to photograph, what the budget is, what the objective is, how much you can lug around (or want to lug), who the audience is, and on and on.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the "pixel shift" schemes that make a high MP count image from four or eight smaller ones. They're only good for still life work. Movement causes weird artifacts. Wind can ruin a scene with trees and other movable things in it. But if you want to photograph the face of a Rolex watch and blow it up to ten feet by ten feet, so you see the texture in the metal, the high resolution mode might work. If you're trying to photograph gnats mating on the face of that watch, give up! You need a better solution.
Yes. No. It depends on the need. I wouldn't junk a... (show quote)

That was my reaction, based on experience with low light and IR.
A long exposure limits the subjects that one can photograph.

If anybody knows how to prevent a bird from flying though the frame
(short of using a shotgun) I'd love to hear about it.

Maybe a pet falcon perched on one's arm? Does Olympus sell one of those?

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Feb 1, 2019 20:36:01   #
Bipod
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Now in this case I don't throw away the tablespoon but don't need it. Because I can always measure 3 teaspoons. I can't measure a teaspoon amount with a tablespoon.


And four tablespoons will require you to count 12 teaspoonfuls.
You must really like spooning.

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Feb 1, 2019 20:50:56   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Saw this article where they compared the D810 images to the Olympus E-M5 high resolution mode images. At base iso the Olympus had the edge. At 1600 iso the D810 had the edge. But the Pentax 645Z digital medium format images beat them both easily. So format does matter, when it's digital medium format.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/olympus-e-m5-ii/olympus-e-m5-iiTECH2.HTM

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Feb 1, 2019 22:45:40   #
Bipod
 
What consumers rarely realize is that their buying decisions effect everyone.

Today digital cameras are a high-cap business. It costs a lot to bring one to market.
No camera will get made unless tens of thousands of people want to buy it.

Unfortunately, there are aren't enough full-time professional photographers left to
justify producing even one "pro" camera model. "Pro" means "Prosumer".

But Joe Consumer (and his Uncle Bob) love tiny, convenient, cheap
and "latest technology!" above all else. But cell phones have that in spades--
they cost billions to develop -- and can play Angry Birds and Crushing
Candies! And the most advanced and expensive smart phones on the market
allow you to take photos with two different apeartures! Wow!

The surprising thing -- given consumer preferences--is that digital cameras are
still being made (by so many Japanese companies) and the the image quality is
as good as it is (even if they come in sizese S, XS and XXS).

Unless something changes, in a few years your next camera is going to look a lot
like a cell phone...or be a cell phone. The current situation is not sustainable.

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Feb 2, 2019 01:33:04   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Bipod wrote:
tdekany had repeated claimed that because of the Olympus "High Resoltuion Mode"--
that takes 8 shots over an approximately 1 second period--format no longer matters.
Any format can be enlarged to any size, he says, so format no longer matters.

Is this true?

Should we all junk our FF cameras?

I would not worry about anything this guy says.

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