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Feb 1, 2019 16:23:09   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
G Brown....Like any country or even some specific states in America, who've continued to promise, promise, promise, benefits far above what is fundable and sustainable, has nothing bad consequences and bad outcomes written all over it.

America will be paying that piper in the not too distance future....there's not enough taxable wealth or wealthy people to even dent the looming debt crisis.

Good luck and I hope you make a clean break with the EU since their economy is also sinking...Cheers

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Feb 2, 2019 09:30:04   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
The world has been in a slow down for many years. History is the truth. After WWI soldiers that fought marched on Washington and slept in the parks protesting benefits. After WWII their was chaos in the world.
America studied how much food could the people in Europe survive while help and services were provided.
The recent war in Syria was about climate change. Farmers and north could got no help. Drought caused rebellion it the middle east. It is about food and safety.
We have leaders who crippled us with debt. The recent tax reform was a disgrace. Our debt is too big
to fix. Our education system is poor. Our infrastructure is falling apart etc.
Now I am an optimist. The worlds poor have made great progress in recent years.
I believe in our free market. But we all have to invest in our children's future.
And our grandchildren.

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Feb 2, 2019 09:48:58   #
PRETENDER Loc: Micanopy,Florida
 
I started drawing social security at 65 but kept working until 72. After 40 years the company I worked for relieved me of my duties. But before I had driven on my way home I knew someone was looking after me because I was actually relieved. i ain't rich but I am mostly happy in my retirement. I suspect its because of my 5 furry roommates don't give time to feel sorry for myself even in this sorry world of today and who wants to on vacation with 5 pups.

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Feb 2, 2019 10:11:39   #
Largobob
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
The world has been in a slow down for many years. History is the truth. After WWI soldiers that fought marched on Washington and slept in the parks protesting benefits. After WWII their was chaos in the world.
America studied how much food could the people in Europe survive while help and services were provided.
The recent war in Syria was about climate change. Farmers and north could got no help. Drought caused rebellion it the middle east. It is about food and safety.
We have leaders who crippled us with debt. The recent tax reform was a disgrace. Our debt is too big
to fix. Our education system is poor. Our infrastructure is falling apart etc.
Now I am an optimist. The worlds poor have made great progress in recent years.
I believe in our free market. But we all have to invest in our children's future.
And our grandchildren.
The world has been in a slow down for many years. ... (show quote)


Sorry Tom. Read your words. IMHO, not the words of an optimist....nor particularly or historically accurate.

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Feb 2, 2019 10:50:12   #
jiminnee
 
I hate to say this, but I actually got more raises from S.S. than I ever did from the job as a skilled tradesman.

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Feb 2, 2019 12:58:10   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Largobob wrote:
Sorry Tom. Read your words. IMHO, not the words of an optimist....nor particularly or historically accurate.


Yeh the world has many beautiful things happening. Like photography. My grandchildren. My belief.
But what I see today, especially today is our turning our eyes away from what we need to do
and the help some of our citizens and other in the world. OK historically a bit off. Most based on stories I have seen. Recognizing what we need to do is not a lack of optimism. We need to do everything we can
to conserve and save our environment.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:13:50   #
Largobob
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
Yeh the world has many beautiful things happening. Like photography. My grandchildren. My belief.
But what I see today, especially today is our turning our eyes away from what we need to do
and the help some of our citizens and other in the world. OK historically a bit off. Most based on stories I have seen. Recognizing what we need to do is not a lack of optimism. We need to do everything we can
to conserve and save our environment.


I agree Tom. Problem is, WE don't always agree on "what needs to be done." I believe this sovereign nation needs to secure its borders...you and many other may not. Conserve and save our environment are also hard to define for everyone's agreement.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:47:02   #
2Dragons Loc: The Back of Beyond
 
G Brown wrote:
Trouble with the UK now is that wages have been stuck for past 15-20 years. Those coming in to work are on minimum wage. Inflation over the last 15 years has wiped out most people's savings if they had any.

Pension age for those men born before 1955 was 65 women before 1959 was 60. Pension age is now increasing year on year, So I will work 1 year more(66) and wife will work till she is 66 (Equality law).This could also change because last year my wife 'Could' retire at 65...but it has gone up one year 'very quietly'. Who knows when we will retire or IF.

In the 1980's and 1990's several 'pension schemes' went bust! Since then several companies have 'propped up' their accounts by investing their company pension schemes in themselves....then gone bust.So very few pensioners have more than the State Pension.

In 1972 Ted Heath (the Prime Minister) warned that the state pension did not have enough money going in to have any chance of meeting future demand. This Government (Late 2016) decided that all workers should have a private pension....as there is a pension crisis....(Surprise surprise).
Employers have to contribute a minimum of 2% of employees contribution....which means inflation will negate ANY financial security that is promised.


The UK Government bailed out several banks in the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's for tens of thousands of BILLIONS. Since then they have curbed Public spending, Local Government spending and public services across the board. They call it 'Austerity' everyone else including The United Nations call it 'victimizing the poorest' and the weakest.

Currently the waiting list for 'Universal Credit' is 3 months (for no reason that can be explained to the UN investigators) other than to 'dissuade claiming'. Many benefits are now 'reviewed annually' by a 'tribunal'. None attendance means 'you don't contest their decision'. Appeals are now running with a 40 - 45 week delay before even a date is set. It is suggested that 71% of appeals are found in favor of the appellant. But The UN could not get an answer as to why the tribunals are not more stringently checked. (Outside companies run the tribunals and are ignoring DR's and Consultants advice....HM Justice hears the appeals and has access to all paperwork...)

The poor in this country are no longer the 15% witless and useless....but working people and those that have put in a full working life.(The once middle class) There seems to be no-one stopping the top 17% increasing their income year on year. (They have had two tax reductions in the last 2 budgets) Whilst Food banks, Clothes banks and soup kitchens have increased 37% in the last two years.

We no longer have a 'middle class' we have Poverty, Working and impoverished, and The Rich..and getting Richer... (Brexit deal includes a cash advance to the EU to cover UK EUMP's pension contributions.......)

We used to have a Labour Government that helped curb the excesses of Conservatism....But that ended with Harold Wilson in the 1960's. Successive Labour Governments have been more right wing (Conservative) than even the Liberals.

The worry about coming out of the EU is that UK citizens will no longer come under EU law....NOR have any chance of stopping the erosion of 'British Fair Play' in Government..
The rich will continue to get a 'Government' that meets their needs and sod everyone else.

Britain: The Country that once ruled the World is now on the verge of having its population becoming the poorest of any western country in the space of one generation. Having given away Wales, Scotland and Bowed to Northern Ireland, we should now trade solely as England.

'Welcome to the Tax Haven of England....Should Global Warming make you feel a bit Tacky....we have lots of Punka Wallas to cool you down!

not having fun
Trouble with the UK now is that wages have been st... (show quote)


Sounds like your Right is our Left, politically speaking. Frankly, I think they should disband the U.N. I don't particularly care for the direction their long term plans are taking us globally. Salaries in this country have remained pretty stagnant for a very long time, too. The ones making the big bucks seem to be in Technology and the Market. Union wages here are high so union members really do not have much to complain about, although they think they do. Government and State workers do very well in this country. Without a degree of some sort, getting a decent paying job is tough. People in the building trades do well as there is a shortage of decent carpenters, plumbers, and electricians because so much emphasis was put on people in high school to go to college and not think about attending trade schools. Many school systems do not even have shop, sheet metal or drafting classes anymore. Sewing and cooking classes seem to be a thing of the past, too. I don't know about England, but the school system in the U.S. is woefully inadequate and 75% of our Real Estate taxes go to supporting our schools that are graduating people who can barely read, write or do simple arithmetic.

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Feb 2, 2019 16:01:46   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
Blaster34 wrote:
No more raises....ain't that the truth


Cost of living adjustments that don't reflect the everyday cost of living raises.

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Feb 2, 2019 16:11:18   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
The world has been in a slow down for many years. History is the truth. After WWI soldiers that fought marched on Washington and slept in the parks protesting benefits. After WWII their was chaos in the world.
America studied how much food could the people in Europe survive while help and services were provided.
The recent war in Syria was about climate change. Farmers and north could got no help. Drought caused rebellion it the middle east. It is about food and safety.
We have leaders who crippled us with debt. The recent tax reform was a disgrace. Our debt is too big
to fix. Our education system is poor. Our infrastructure is falling apart etc.
Now I am an optimist. The worlds poor have made great progress in recent years.
I believe in our free market. But we all have to invest in our children's future.
And our grandchildren.
The world has been in a slow down for many years. ... (show quote)


The current war in Syria and still on going was about Climate Change.....guess Assad must have been Climate Change 'Denier.'...

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Feb 2, 2019 16:53:57   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
Tom Daniels wrote:
The world has been in a slow down for many years. History is the truth. After WWI soldiers that fought marched on Washington and slept in the parks protesting benefits. After WWII their was chaos in the world.
America studied how much food could the people in Europe survive while help and services were provided.
The recent war in Syria was about climate change. Farmers and north could got no help. Drought caused rebellion it the middle east. It is about food and safety.
We have leaders who crippled us with debt. The recent tax reform was a disgrace. Our debt is too big
to fix. Our education system is poor. Our infrastructure is falling apart etc.
Now I am an optimist. The worlds poor have made great progress in recent years.
I believe in our free market. But we all have to invest in our children's future.
And our grandchildren.
The world has been in a slow down for many years. ... (show quote)



I think the lease lend bill after WW11 gave the UK 10 billion in a long term loan that was finally paid back in 2006 !!!(It also forced us into NATO and Polaris Submarines) The tax payer bailed out the Royal Bank of Scotland for over 90Billion a couple of years ago....even with inflation How Long will we be waiting for that money back?

A lot of the problems with the middle East and Africa is that they were once French territories. The French Bank now holds all of the 'Development Funding' for most of those countries...France is doling it out at a max of 15% per year and using the remainder to to prop up Frances economy. Hell India had the decency to refuse our Commonwealth Funding stating that the UK needed it more than they did!

The Education that our children receive has little practical skills based technology. Most learning is results based and those that fail in the schools system see drug dealing and the associated low level crime associated with this, as their only way to earn a decent income or to have the 'trappings' of 'success' as defined in the media.

Hard Work or Continuous Work is no longer seen as a ladder out of poverty. The biggest 'Employers' in the UK are: National Health Service - with non contract Agency staff doing the most non-medical and 'medical routine' jobs. The Government, on short contract and minimal hours, The Education System, on renewable annual contracts, filled up with Agency work covering absent teachers as 'teaching assistants' on day rate. And finally Agency work which is none contract, none trained (as such) and without any 'benefits' associated with full time working.

Non of the biggest employers in the country can fill their vacancies with full time employees as their core 'funding' no longer gives them a stable annual budget. The Agencies are ripping them off, when used, with their 'management expenses' and the Governing bodies are only interested in meeting constantly changing targets set by Ministers or Media in response to 'Crisis' blazoned across headlines or punitive legal costs when malpractice meets Court Action.

Add Artificial Intelligence into the mix and most low, medium and some upper management jobs will disappear too!

Expecting our children and grandchildren to "have a life better than us" is really pushing credence. You are better off teaching them Wilderness training!!!

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Feb 2, 2019 18:58:18   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
Blaster34 wrote:
One of the very few regrets I have in life is retiring a few years too early.....not because of the finances, but because of the work, yes I missed it....


Show me a head stone that says I didn't work enough. If you are putting in the hours you're missing out on the family life. Then again you may not like your family!

There is a song 'The cat's in the cradle".

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Feb 2, 2019 19:37:06   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Show me a head stone that says I didn't work enough. If you are putting in the hours you're missing out on the family life. Then again you may not like your family!

There is a song 'The cat's in the cradle".



Want to be mediocre in life, then do just enough to get by....If the minimum wasn't just good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum....Cheers, and btw, I love my family, all my children are very successful and they've been through hardships that I doubt you've ever had since all you apparently ever did was the minimum.

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Feb 2, 2019 19:45:00   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I did my work, and now I'm retired. I have lots of time, but I have to watch my spending - no more raises.


The aspect of retmt that was the most disconcerting to me was losing all the holidays and vacation! 😎😎😎

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Feb 2, 2019 22:04:00   #
wideangle Loc: Wisconsin
 
I prefer to work smart, not long

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