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Jan 30, 2019 15:40:52   #
PierreD
 
I use it most of the time with shutter speed and aperture on Manual, but limit it to max. 1600 in order to minimize noise. It works really well for most situations.

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Jan 30, 2019 15:45:44   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
josquin1 wrote:
What is wrong with using auto ISO? When we were doing film it was auto ISO because of the film speed. I understand moving Ilford 100 to 125 but it still was one speed and we adjusted out shutter speed and aperture to the available light. If one wants to stop action or have a blurry background we set the the ISO or shutter speed and let the camera choose the ISO. And what is this 1/8000 shutter speed. I can think of nothing that can go so fast that the old top shutter speed of 1/2000 couldn't stop. Sheesh!
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Your first sentence says one thing but the rest of your post says different. With film you did well and worked within those parameters. Surely you can do the same with digital. You sound as if you know what ISO to use for different light circumstances.

Dennis

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Jan 30, 2019 16:42:57   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
duane klipping wrote:
I never use it as it tended to run too high on auto and I want my noise to a minimum. I would rather have the control and then can only blame myself if it is wrong.


I would like to know more and understand what is happening in your case. Can you share with us what camera you're using that picks an ISO higher than you would and an example of when it happens? Are you mostly shooting timed exposures? Thanks.

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Jan 30, 2019 16:49:42   #
BebuLamar
 
gessman wrote:
I would like to know more and understand what is happening in your case. Can you share with us what camera you're using that picks an ISO higher than you would and an example of when it happens? Are you mostly shooting timed exposures? Thanks.


Even with time exposures if you set the shutter speed to low speed the ISO won't go high.

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Jan 30, 2019 17:05:39   #
Photocraig
 
billnourse wrote:
I use auto ISO for lighted sporting events. I want the shutter speed and aperture set in manual and with changing low light conditions auto ISO gives me flexibility to not worry about exposure.


Even inside in the older school gymnasiums and at the Middle School levels and Rec departments, indoor lighting is poor to start with and inconsistently worse in spots. As a budget shooter with a slow tele zoom, To get the shot, I have to take any ISO I can get.

So, as a derivative of "F8 and BE there," maybe "Auto ISO f8 and 1/500th and BE there" for indoor sports and lighted night sports. And events, and street. And museums. I guess there's lots. I'll need to experiment more.

My Canon 77D has the DIGIC 8 processor which is good for high ISO. Let's get our money's worth.

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Jan 30, 2019 17:24:48   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Even with time exposures if you set the shutter speed to low speed the ISO won't go high.


I probably said that wrong. I meant long exposures not using the timer, like "bulb" shots. I really haven't thought that through or experimented with it - I was just hoping to get him to explain how he's shooting, in what mode and lighting situation that might be out of the ordinary that would cause his auto ISO to go too high but would permit him to set a lower ISO manually and get a cleaner image, all other settings remaining the same. It's seems that all cameras do not work the same. For instance, my Sony a6000 will shoot in auto ISO and "M" but my a6500 will not, so to use auto ISO with the a6500 I have to use "A" or "S" and maybe others I haven't tried. I thought that knowing what camera he uses that doesn't give him an auto ISO setting on the low end of the range might lead to better understanding the complete picture. His comments seem to be running counter to the norm here and I thought it would be interesting to find out why if possible??? I was just trying not to put him off with an abrasive approach. Perhaps you can find a better way of asking, rephrasing the idea.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:02:25   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I use Auto ISO in A mode. I have the ISO range set at 100 to 12800. The camera follows a strict rule so I know exactly what it would do. I generally use f/8 (f5.6 if the light is low). In good light it would use ISO 100 and whatever shutter speed needed for the correct exposure. As the light gets dimmer it would drop the shutter speed down to 1/focal length (This is default but I can change this limit up or down. I am thinking of changing it up a bit as I don't seem to hold the camera steady enough at 1/focal length). When the light gets dimmer still it would keep the shutter at this value and starts to increase the ISO. It works well for me because I generally do not shoot fast moving object and the shutter speed only needs to be fast enough to prevent hand shake. Now that works if the meter would indicate the correct exposure but of course there are times it doesn't. In this case I would switch the camera to M and the Auto ISO off.
I use Auto ISO in A mode. I have the ISO range set... (show quote)


I missed this - sounds like to me you have a fool-proof system worked out. It's nice when we get it dialed in and can rock back and get some images with the assurance that there won't be too many surprises.

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Jan 30, 2019 18:06:36   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Wouldn't have any more noise than any other modes. The ISO goes up as the light comes down and in any modes the choice is noise or no picture.



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Jan 30, 2019 21:43:28   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
will47 wrote:
When are good times to consider using Auto ISO. I use a 7D Mark ll and mainly do landscapes, animals, birds, and I sometimes try BIF. Thanks.


I set Auto ISO at 1600 with minimum shutter speed at 1/60. ISO set at 100 on sunny days and 800 on cloudy days and let Auto ISO ride after setting Aperture and Shutter speed. Sometimes raise Auto ISO to 3200 if shutter speed is too slow.

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Jan 31, 2019 03:21:08   #
TonyBrown
 
I use auto iso for bif. I try to keep my shutter speed to around 1//2000 and aperture to f8 and I find auto iso helps me get more keepers. Only problem is that in poor light the aperture at full focal length is restricted to 5.6/6.3 on my super zoom lenses so auto iso is often much too high. Works great though when the sun is out.

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Jan 31, 2019 04:22:40   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
TonyBrown wrote:
I use auto iso for bif. I try to keep my shutter speed to around 1//2000 and aperture to f8 and I find auto iso helps me get more keepers. Only problem is that in poor light the aperture at full focal length is restricted to 5.6/6.3 on my super zoom lenses so auto iso is often much too high. Works great though when the sun is out.


Seems you're leaving open the question of how you deal with the problem. It seems to me that, if you take command of and drop your auto ISO, in order to keep your preferred ratio you need to compensate that by dropping the shutter speed since you cannot open the aperture wider which means that you may or may not get the shot you want depending on the bif you're shooting. Do you keep shooting, accepting whatever blur you get, or do you just give up and go home?

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Jan 31, 2019 04:56:10   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I use A mode and Auto ISO about 60% of the time. The other time full manual that is in M and Auto ISO OFF.


I only use it when using a variable aperture lens or on moving objects that are passing through areas that have varying light , say moving through shadows.Although most of us do not like losing control of the function, it is very useful in theses sort of circumstances .

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Jan 31, 2019 05:29:39   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Camera response to lighting changes is never instantaneous...it takes some small fraction of a second to see the change in light, recalculate (or look up) exposure, then lock in the new values.

The camera can clearly do all this faster than the photographer can, but there is still an unavoidable delay. Have you ever seen the results of that delay show up in your images?

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Jan 31, 2019 06:30:56   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
the f/stops here wrote:
I use the 7DmkII in manual exposure mode most of the time. That allows me to select the aperture and shutter speed for the situation I’m about to capture. I start with the ISO in auto to establish what the ISO should
I set at. After looking at my histogram, I can either set my ISO to a specific number or leave it in auto and use exposure compensation to get me to the exposure I want. Canon charges you plenty for a great camera body that includes a terrific exposure meter. Let the camera be happy by doing something it was designed
to do like determine the correct exposure by selecting the best ISO.
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Nikon D7200 SOOC, ISO 22800. Don't be afraid to shoot High ISO's


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Jan 31, 2019 07:22:16   #
BebuLamar
 
gessman wrote:
I probably said that wrong. I meant long exposures not using the timer, like "bulb" shots. I really haven't thought that through or experimented with it - I was just hoping to get him to explain how he's shooting, in what mode and lighting situation that might be out of the ordinary that would cause his auto ISO to go too high but would permit him to set a lower ISO manually and get a cleaner image, all other settings remaining the same. It's seems that all cameras do not work the same. For instance, my Sony a6000 will shoot in auto ISO and "M" but my a6500 will not, so to use auto ISO with the a6500 I have to use "A" or "S" and maybe others I haven't tried. I thought that knowing what camera he uses that doesn't give him an auto ISO setting on the low end of the range might lead to better understanding the complete picture. His comments seem to be running counter to the norm here and I thought it would be interesting to find out why if possible??? I was just trying not to put him off with an abrasive approach. Perhaps you can find a better way of asking, rephrasing the idea.
I probably said that wrong. I meant long exposure... (show quote)


I have to try it out on my camera. I right now don't know which ISO the camera will choose if I have the shutter speed in B. Reading the manual it doesn't say what happens when you have Auto ISO on and shutter speed set to B.

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