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Jan 30, 2019 20:58:35   #
sloscheider Loc: Minnesota
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
Good advice - Thank you!

It will be really useful if you click the "Quote Reply" button below the response you are responding too - it will let us all know who you are thanking for the good advice :)

If you did say what your intended purpose is I apologize for missing it. I have the 2.8 Nikon equivalent of the the 70-210 (or whatever) lens and love it for low light indoor shooting like highschool sports and other indoor events. I've used the f4 version but missed the few extra stops of light.

B&H lists 4 versions of the f4 canon lens ranging from $600 up to $1,300. What's your budget? They also have the entry level f2.8 version for $1,300 and that includes the tripod mount collar you mentioned. It's not an IS lens though. My Nikon version isn't either and I haven't missed it, that said, if I had the money I'd spring for the stabilized version....

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Jan 30, 2019 21:03:44   #
Photocraig
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Upgrade from what?

All of Canon's 70-200 zooms are L-series professional models representing some of the premier lenses of the entire Canon line-up. The drawback, exasperated by a cropped body, is the lack of 'wide' angle that your 18-135 provides. If you envision a 70-200 lens being as everyday useful as your 18-135 or even the 50mm, you probably won't find that assumption to be accurate and an expensive lens to confirm. If looking for length, you might find the 70-300 IS II (the non L model) to be more useful with the longer focal length and more economical than the L models.
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I agree. The 70-300 II is excellent on my APS-C 77D. It is about 2/3rds the price of the L lens, and only 1 stop slower at 300mm and probably only 1/2 stop slower at 200mm. Great results from this lens and its original predecessor. IS is even better in the II model and focus is even faster than the original USM.Ken Rockwell, controversial as he may be to some, uses this lens in his lightweight hiking kit over his 100-400 L. Reflecting on it, I've had one or the other versions of this lens for20+ years. I've never been disappointed. I've used it for birds still and in flight, sports, indoors and out, landscapes and portraits.

It is an EF lens, so it will carry forward to Full Frame EOS cameras and the "R" adapters. With The APS-C body you will have an effective focal length of about 110mm to 480mm. That's a looong shot. I come close to filling the frame with a small Little Leaguer in the batter's box from WAY down the foul line. With an adult pro ball player, He really does fill the frame toe to top of the cap. And teh IS is very good.
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Jan 30, 2019 21:49:45   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
sloscheider wrote:
It will be really useful if you click the "Quote Reply" button below the response you are responding too - it will let us all know who you are thanking for the good advice :)

If you did say what your intended purpose is I apologize for missing it. I have the 2.8 Nikon equivalent of the the 70-210 (or whatever) lens and love it for low light indoor shooting like highschool sports and other indoor events. I've used the f4 version but missed the few extra stops of light.

B&H lists 4 versions of the f4 canon lens ranging from $600 up to $1,300. What's your budget? They also have the entry level f2.8 version for $1,300 and that includes the tripod mount collar you mentioned. It's not an IS lens though. My Nikon version isn't either and I haven't missed it, that said, if I had the money I'd spring for the stabilized version....
It will be really useful if you click the "Qu... (show quote)


I have a lot of options to weigh. I appreciate everyone's input and for the detail given. I love UHH, I have learned so much.

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Jan 31, 2019 17:33:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
I currently have a 80D with 18-135 kit lens. I have added a 50mm and have been very pleased with the sharpness of the 50. I am thinking of upgrading to a 70-200 f4, IS, II.
Will this be a significant improvement or is this just a GAS attack.


From your current lens there will be a demonstrable improvement.
Not that there is anything wrong with your current lens but you will see a difference
A lens that is very easy to recommend.

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Jan 31, 2019 17:55:23   #
junglejim1949 Loc: Sacramento,CA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
From your current lens there will be a demonstrable improvement.
Not that there is anything wrong with your current lens but you will see a difference
A lens that is very easy to recommend.


It is a lot of money for me, so I want the best bang for my buck.
The f4, IS, ii seems light enough for hand held and option to add collar. I am glad to get feedback from actual owners.
Thank you - Jim

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Jan 31, 2019 18:37:09   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
It is a lot of money for me, so I want the best bang for my buck.
The f4, IS, ii seems light enough for hand held and option to add collar. I am glad to get feedback from actual owners.
Thank you - Jim


The f4 is very light especially compared to other Canon zooms like the 28-300. If it were 28-200 it would stay on my camera but I end up using the wide end more than the long so I end up keeping the 28-300 on my camera most of the time but for a zoom in the 70-200 range the Canon f4 is awesome. :-) enjoy

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Feb 1, 2019 07:40:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
In the back of my mind I was trying to build up lenses that would follow me to FF in the future.


That is a good idea. And a safe path with Canon. Canon has shown a commitment to backward lens compatibility with their new mirrorless line. Reviewers find the legacy lenses using the adapter on the EOS R often perform better on the R than on the DSLR's they were originally designed for.

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Feb 4, 2019 01:56:23   #
DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area
 
junglejim1949 wrote:
I currently have a 80D with 18-135 kit lens. I have added a 50mm and have been very pleased with the sharpness of the 50. I am thinking of upgrading to a 70-200 f4, IS, II.
Will this be a significant improvement or is this just a GAS attack.


I've had my 80D for a little over two years and got it with the EF-S 18-135; an excellent lens. My second lens was the EF 70-300 IS II USM. It gives me excellent reach (480 equivalent) and is relatively small and light. I'm very happy with the image quality and recommend it as an excellent and reasonably priced upgrade. I'll be all over Laguna Seca Raceway on Friday at the IndyCar test day and the 18-135 will be on in the paddock, the 70-300 when I'm wandering around the track. I've done this a few times already with very good results.

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