Blogger Bills TV Station After Seeing His Video In A News Report
Aug 13, 2012 20:19:02 #
From: http://jimromenesko.com/2012/08/13/blogger-bills-tv-station-after-seeing-his-video-in-a-news-report/
Michael McKisson, who runs a website covering Tucsons cycling community, posted a story and video two months ago about an elementary school installing a bicycle track.
Yesterday, our local station [KOLD-TV] ran a story about the track and included my footage in their piece, he tells Romenesko readers. I was not contacted by the station to use the footage, nor was any credit for the footage provided. They must have done a video screen capture of the YouTube version to be able to add it to their report.
I have sent an email to the news director with an invoice attached for the use of the video footage. I billed them $300. I figured a decent rate was $100 per hour and I worked at least 3 hours shooting, editing and posting the video.
I have yet to hear back from the news director. UPDATE: The news director has responded and said they are looking into it, reports McKisson.
McKissons video = http://tucsonvelo.com/news/students-at-local-elementary-school-ready-to-ride-new-campus-bike-track/13505
KOLD-TVs report = http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/19238433/students-from-flowing-wells-get-a-bike-track
Michael McKisson, who runs a website covering Tucsons cycling community, posted a story and video two months ago about an elementary school installing a bicycle track.
Yesterday, our local station [KOLD-TV] ran a story about the track and included my footage in their piece, he tells Romenesko readers. I was not contacted by the station to use the footage, nor was any credit for the footage provided. They must have done a video screen capture of the YouTube version to be able to add it to their report.
I have sent an email to the news director with an invoice attached for the use of the video footage. I billed them $300. I figured a decent rate was $100 per hour and I worked at least 3 hours shooting, editing and posting the video.
I have yet to hear back from the news director. UPDATE: The news director has responded and said they are looking into it, reports McKisson.
McKissons video = http://tucsonvelo.com/news/students-at-local-elementary-school-ready-to-ride-new-campus-bike-track/13505
KOLD-TVs report = http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/19238433/students-from-flowing-wells-get-a-bike-track
Aug 13, 2012 22:42:55 #
Aug 14, 2012 06:02:53 #
Set up a rig to auto film, while you test your chainsaw on the news editor's desk .............
I'm sure a lot of folks would pay to watch that !
I'm sure a lot of folks would pay to watch that !
Aug 14, 2012 10:28:52 #
[quote=St3v3M]From: I billed them $300. I figured a decent rate was $100 per hour and I worked at least 3 hours shooting, editing and posting the video.
I think it's cheezy for them to take material without notification and credit and I think they should pay the $300.
I do have a question that perhaps a lawyer could answer: 1. is it a FAIR USE situation, because only a percentage of the original material, was used. 2. The original material was not used as created because an informational voice over was added. ??
I think it's cheezy for them to take material without notification and credit and I think they should pay the $300.
I do have a question that perhaps a lawyer could answer: 1. is it a FAIR USE situation, because only a percentage of the original material, was used. 2. The original material was not used as created because an informational voice over was added. ??
Aug 14, 2012 10:35:57 #
travelwp wrote:
I do have a question that perhaps a lawyer could answer: 1. is it a FAIR USE situation, because only a percentage of the original material, was used. 2. The original material was not used as created because an informational voice over was added. ??
I think the same thing applies here:
Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1490830/court-rules-samplers-pay-up.jhtml
Aug 14, 2012 10:55:44 #
"Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For"
You raised an interesting point of view. When someone creates a painting from an idea, I would consider that art. When one documents a person riding a bike does that constitute being an artist? The court case you referenced was about artists.
I don't know the answer, just asking.
You raised an interesting point of view. When someone creates a painting from an idea, I would consider that art. When one documents a person riding a bike does that constitute being an artist? The court case you referenced was about artists.
I don't know the answer, just asking.
Aug 14, 2012 10:58:33 #
travelwp wrote:
"Court Rules That All Musical Samples Must Be Paid For"
You raised an interesting point of view. When someone creates a painting from an idea, I would consider that art. When one documents a person riding a bike does that constitute being an artist? The court case you referenced was about artists.
I don't know the answer, just asking.
You raised an interesting point of view. When someone creates a painting from an idea, I would consider that art. When one documents a person riding a bike does that constitute being an artist? The court case you referenced was about artists.
I don't know the answer, just asking.
Is photography art?
http://wrangl.com/-3
Aug 14, 2012 11:19:07 #
"Is photography art?"
I don't know, but my observation is that a photograph is documentation; however, when the document is post processed into something very different from the original then it becomes art.
I don't know, but my observation is that a photograph is documentation; however, when the document is post processed into something very different from the original then it becomes art.
Aug 14, 2012 13:00:50 #
I guess the lesson is to put a copyright notice on everything you post, video or stills.
You need to talk to a copyright lawyer.
Anyway, I'm going to warn my photographer friends about this incident. I guess we all should use extreme caution in protecting our works.
You need to talk to a copyright lawyer.
Anyway, I'm going to warn my photographer friends about this incident. I guess we all should use extreme caution in protecting our works.
Aug 14, 2012 13:25:20 #
I guess the lesson is to put a copyright notice on everything you post, video or stills.
AGREED !
AGREED !
Aug 14, 2012 14:09:09 #
A copyright notice only indicates that you consider you have a claim to the material in question.
If some other person or organization uses that material and refuses to pay you, or even to agree to the validity of your copyright claim, then the copyright notice is of no value unless you have the funds and resources to embark what may be a protracted legal action against them.
Never a situation to be entered into lightly !
In short - might will always win over right.
If some other person or organization uses that material and refuses to pay you, or even to agree to the validity of your copyright claim, then the copyright notice is of no value unless you have the funds and resources to embark what may be a protracted legal action against them.
Never a situation to be entered into lightly !
In short - might will always win over right.
Aug 14, 2012 14:20:06 #
Ask a competing TV station and the local newspaper if they are interested in the story of copyright infringement of your video.
You can apply for copyright at anytime, and it is retro-active. It is NOT who filed first; it is who has the oldest time stamp.
You can apply for copyright at anytime, and it is retro-active. It is NOT who filed first; it is who has the oldest time stamp.
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