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Jan 29, 2019 16:34:46   #
Quinn 4
 
Who cares if someone is using some kind of cell phone, iPads or what every. Use what you like to use to hell with everyone else. I still have film cameras: Leica IIIb/Retina IIc/ Retina Reflex IV/ Zeiss Contessa and a 14 year old digal camera. I get enjoyment from use one of my cameras. I have a last name and it not Everyone. If you one of those people who has to keep up with Jones in tech. items you have a problem.

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Jan 29, 2019 17:48:01   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
marklucey wrote:
I'm with you GrandmaG. All of our friends use their phones to take pictures. I just figure they don't really care about pictures. But if i'm around they are bugging me to shoot the pictures and post them with my REAL camera. "Oh can you send me that pic" or "Can you text me that photo, it so great" Well sure but first i need to load it on to my computer then email it to myself then text. I rarely use my phone as i take a camera with me all the time. My wife has a I-Phone 8 and yes it takes great pics up to a point but my Sony mirror-less cameras do so much better in low light with less noise and can focus and shoot way faster than that phone.
I'm with you GrandmaG. All of our friends use thei... (show quote)


I carry my small Sony RX100iii in my purse, so I have NO reason to take a picture with my cell phone. Plus all three of my cameras have the option of sending the picture to my phone and I can post it or send it to someone. However, like you, I prefer to get it in my software and make a finished photo out of it and THEN share it.

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Jan 29, 2019 18:49:18   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Still amazed that despite the complaints by the manufacturers, camera and lens prices continue to rise. I guess they want all they can get before the crash?

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Jan 29, 2019 19:34:21   #
Jeffers
 
Yep, GrandmaG, a small camera such as yours or a Canon ELPH, knocks a cell phone's thing in the dirt.

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Jan 29, 2019 19:35:17   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Smart phones, video games and social media have dulled our children's inelegance and creativity.

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Jan 29, 2019 19:47:25   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Mike Fos wrote:
Sad state of affairs. I think it is lots of fun to switch lenses and playing with a real camera to see what you can do. Phones are for talking. P.S. Only got a flip phone.


The reality is that the vast majority of people don't care about switching lenses or playing with endless exposure features. They just want a simple camera with which they can take quick and easy snapshots - of family and friends at a birthday party, etc. They don't want to spend hours studying instruction manuals, and they don't expect their captured images to pass as works of art. They want a camera which requires very little maintenance and preparation. Equally important, they want a camera that can slip into a pocket or purse and not interfere with other activities.
Companies such as Nikon and Canon have failed to tailor to that huge segment of the population.

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Jan 29, 2019 19:59:21   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
rook2c4 wrote:
They just want a simple camera with which they can take quick and easy snapshots - of family and friends at a birthday party, etc. ...... Equally important, they want a camera that can slip into a pocket or purse and not interfere with other activities.


And they don't want to keep any of the photos beyond 1 day (even pictures of their children). Asking them if they have backed up their photos you get a blank look. I know a lot of people keep their entire photo album in their camera. The biggest proponents of this habit are those that take 10 minutes just finding the one shot they want to show you.
It might be debatable about a camera that doesn't interfere with other activities because, it seems to me, that a cellphone is one of the biggest interferences with everyday activities that I have ever seen.
What did we do wrong ?

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Jan 29, 2019 20:00:44   #
Jeffers
 
My Canon Powershot ELPH 360 caters exactly to this market and is an awesome point-and-shoot camera that fits in my pocket, and has many shoot modes that I'm just beginning to explore.

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Jan 29, 2019 20:41:23   #
scphoto Loc: Lancaster, CA
 
I'm continually amazed how well the phone cameras perform and I use it myself quite a bit, but I still love my DSLR. However, I find it increasingly difficult to make a phone call..........

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Jan 29, 2019 20:56:40   #
Rayar66
 
I believe it. The best camera is the one you have with you, I always have my cell phone, I don't always have my camera. Honestly, some of my best pictures as far as composition and colors where taken with an old Samsung S5. That thing took great sunset pictures. The only thing it lacked over my current DSLR was flexibility.

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Jan 29, 2019 21:30:08   #
Harlow Strandlund
 
My thoughts on this--if you have your dslr and accessories with you and see a photo opportunity suddenly appear--omigod, I have the wrong lens on, I have about a thousand variable settings to worry about..I don't have the right filter, etc.,etc. and the opportunity has long since passes by. Right?? Phone in hand, click and it is yours , for better or worse. And unless you plan to sell commercial or go darned big, very, very,very few people could look at the print or the computer and tell what you took the picture with. After all, it is the photo content itself that is our concern, is it not???

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Jan 29, 2019 22:13:53   #
Crosshairs
 
There’s a camera with fancy software, the Light 16, which combines 10 photos in a single image and allows all sorts of adjustments in camera. The Light 16 looks like a smartphone, and about the same size. It’s easy to carry and I imagine that the software will improve and eventually end up in a smartphone. It could replace cameras with interchangeable lenses...another competitor. A friend has a Light 16 and says it takes great pictures but is difficult to get used to. See more at light.co

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Jan 29, 2019 22:26:41   #
markjay
 
From what I can see here - for those users who have pictures, it seems the average age of members is probably around 50+.

We are not being replaced with 20 year olds buying DSLR's - even on the low end. Many of us used SLR's when we were young. Younger people today dont use them.

Is there anyone reading this on this site, who are in their 20's ? If yes - please identify yourself !

The whole camera industry will be dead in 25 years. There will not be much you cant do on a phone. Even long zooms ..... in 25 years the resolution of digital zoom will surpass optical zoom.

In the long run, we're all dead anyway.



jerryc41 wrote:
No doubt about it. The phone has become the standard camera for many people. We had workmen here a few weeks ago working on our well, and they used their phones to take pictures, for reference and to show the boss. I get a kick out of police on TV using phone cameras. I wonder how much use they actually get in police work. I use mine so seldom that I have to become reacquainted with it every time I use it.

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Jan 30, 2019 01:23:57   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
chrissybabe wrote:
And they don't want to keep any of the photos beyond 1 day (even pictures of their children). Asking them if they have backed up their photos you get a blank look. I know a lot of people keep their entire photo album in their camera. The biggest proponents of this habit are those that take 10 minutes just finding the one shot they want to show you.
It might be debatable about a camera that doesn't interfere with other activities because, it seems to me, that a cellphone is one of the biggest interferences with everyday activities that I have ever seen.
What did we do wrong ?
And they don't want to keep any of the photos beyo... (show quote)


You don't seem to have a particularly accurate view of reality.

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Jan 30, 2019 03:20:36   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
rook2c4 wrote:
You don't seem to have a particularly accurate view of reality.


You want to bet ?
Now I cannot speak for EVERY person who only uses a cellphone for taking pictures, nor can I speak for those over 50 who also own a DSLR, but of all the people I know who are over 12 and under about 45-50 who take pictures exclusively on a cellphone not one of them has a picture over 6 months old. They have all been deleted to make room for the next batch. And not one of them has any sort of planned backup system. In fact about the only backup system being used is that nothing dies on the internet so a few pictures that have been emailed to someone else may still be hanging around somewhere but I bet it wasn't planned.
The older I get the more I appreciate (understand is a better word) the ephemeral views of most people.

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