Paper selection for 17 x 22 bird pics: Have an Epson 3800 and a P800. Have a lot of prints up to 13 x 17 using Epson Premium glossy and Luster. Want to use something heavier for 17 x...

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

Have an Epson 3800 and a P800. Have a lot of prints up to 13 x 17 using Epson Premium glossy and Luster. Want to use something heavier for 17 x 22 prints. Tried Exhibition Fiber (Epson seems to provide poor info on using the latter in P800) . I've downloaded the ICC profile but doesn't show up in printer, so used Luster profile with REALLY poor results. Likely not a good paper for this use? Worked fine in 3800 for flowers, etc. over the years. Finally, (bottom line at last!) what papers in this size would you all recommend?

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

I'm a BIG fan of Red River Paper and presently use it almost exclusively! Lots of info on their website and you can call for further advice. It is ABSOLUTELY necessary to use the paper/printer/ink specific icc profile if you're looking for a great print and Red River can halp you with that. Best of luck.

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

cjc2 wrote:

I'm a BIG fan of Red River Paper and presently use it almost exclusively! Lots of info on their website and you can call for further advice. It is ABSOLUTELY necessary to use the paper/printer/ink specific icc profile if you're looking for a great print and Red River can halp you with that. Best of luck.

Thanks for the info. I have several times considered Red River papers but have been sluggish in so moving! Am well aware of the importance of proper ICC profiles, thus my mild complaint re Epson info or lack thereof. Others have said that Epson recommended luster selection for using the paper. I know, I should be calling Epson, but have been "bitten" a time or two when contacting them. Again, thanks for your recommendation!

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

ottercreek wrote:

Thanks for the info. I have several times considered Red River papers but have been sluggish in so moving! Am well aware of the importance of proper ICC profiles, thus my mild complaint re Epson info or lack thereof. Others have said that Epson recommended luster selection for using the paper. I know, I should be calling Epson, but have been "bitten" a time or two when contacting them. Again, thanks for your recommendation!

You will not be disappointed! AFAIK, Epson should have icc profiles for all of their papers and I would expect additional info inside the box. All Red River papers have this available. Best of luck.

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

cjc2 wrote:

You will not be disappointed! AFAIK, Epson should have icc profiles for all of their papers and I would expect additional info inside the box. All Red River papers have this available. Best of luck.

Epson DOES have a profile for exhibition fiber, and it does show up in Quimage, it DOESNT show up on printer monitor, however. Thanks .

BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

ottercreek wrote:

Have an Epson 3800 and a P800. Have a lot of print... (show quote)

If the ICC profile does not show up then it is installed in the wrong place or you did not restart the application used to print before trying to select.

As for paper I use Epson Legacy Fibre. This is a very heavy paper with a fairly smooth surface. I prefer this to the glossy papers, but your taste might be different.

Why App are your printing from? If LR, then you need to add the profile to those shown in the Print Module.

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

BobHartung wrote:

If the ICC profile does not show up then it is installed in the wrong place or you did not restart the application used to print before trying to select.

As for paper I use Epson Legacy Fibre. This is a very heavy paper with a fairly smooth surface. I prefer this to the glossy papers, but your taste might be different.

Why App are your printing from? If LR, then you need to add the profile to those shown in the Print Module.

For years I have printed using Qimage and have had fine results. Last evening I tried the Epson print layout. Both show ICC for Exhibition fiber paper. The latter with a tad better result. Thanks for the paper recommendation!

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

BobHartung wrote:

If the ICC profile does not show up then it is installed in the wrong place or you did not restart the application used to print before trying to select.

As for paper I use Epson Legacy Fibre. This is a very heavy paper with a fairly smooth surface. I prefer this to the glossy papers, but your taste might be different.

Why App are your printing from? If LR, then you need to add the profile to those shown in the Print Module.

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

BobHartung wrote:

If the ICC profile does not show up then it is installed in the wrong place or you did not restart the application used to print before trying to select.

As for paper I use Epson Legacy Fibre. This is a very heavy paper with a fairly smooth surface. I prefer this to the glossy papers, but your taste might be different.

Why App are your printing from? If LR, then you need to add the profile to those shown in the Print Module.

My bad! I have been confusing P800 LED paper settings with settings on Qimage, forgetting that selecting ICC profile in Qimage negates printer settings shown on LED. Guess I suffered from 82 yr. old brain, uhh, GAS!
As an aside, Qimage seemed to kick butt vs the Epson software I just tried. Thanks for nudging me to use my head!

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

I'm happy you have this solved. I would recommend that you do some reading on the Red River site and select a paper to try. I purchased a sampler pack, printed the same photo on each paper (yep, had to download lots of icc profiles -- you can download all at once) and I keep a binder that helps me select a paper. I use about 4 or 5 types but use Ultra Pro Satin the most. Best of luck.

ottercreek Loc: Southwest Ohio

cjc2 wrote:

I'm happy you have this solved. I would recommend that you do some reading on the Red River site and select a paper to try. I purchased a sampler pack, printed the same photo on each paper (yep, had to download lots of icc profiles -- you can download all at once) and I keep a binder that helps me select a paper. I use about 4 or 5 types but use Ultra Pro Satin the most. Best of luck.

Thanks much! I am prepping for a fly fishing show this weekend where I demonstrate handcrafting Bamboo fly rods, but I will definitely look into Red River paper samplers once the rush is over. Do appreciate the recommendation. I photograph primarily to print, having done so for several decades now.