Camera Switch Opinions? (Page 5): To me the 80D is worth the price difference. To someone not doing birds etc but just general family, travel etc maybe not. 70D is 20 MP and 19 focus...

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

To me the 80D is worth the price difference. To someone not doing birds etc but just general family, travel etc maybe not.
70D is 20 MP and 19 focus points and does not focus at f/8.0.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

PHRubin wrote:

I am not familiar in detail with the 70D so I can't really compare. The 80D has an 45 phase detection focusing points, articulated touch screen, 24 MP sensor, an interval timer, good low light performance (f/8 auto focus) DPAF and more. While I wasn't looking for a touch screen, it is great used with the "Q" function to easily change most settings from the screen.

Checking here: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-70D-vs-Canon-EOS-80D I found what seems to be a pretty thorough comparison. On the points you mention, the 70 is short 4 megapixels and maybe the f/8 auto focus, though the latter point wasn't real clear to me.

Thanks for that input. I'm finding some 80D selections which appear to be nearly unused, but even if the 70D's I find show a little more evidence of mileage, learning that they have a shutter life expectancy of 150K as opposed to the 80D's 100K suggests that may not be as big a deal as one would think. Or maybe Canon has learned that shutters in the whole series are not lasting as well as they thought they would?

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

robertjerl wrote:

To me the 80D is worth the price difference. To someone not doing birds etc but just general family, travel etc maybe not.
70D is 20 MP and 19 focus points and does not focus at f/8.0.

Oops! Sorry, robertjerl. In replying with quote to the final note on the previous page, I didn't even see your note at the top of this page. Thanks that observation.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

khorinek wrote:

I would not buy a used canon mark II for $600. You can get a used canon 6D for about the same price and the 6D is a full frame camera with better ISO capabilities. Maybe save up for the 6D II. I used the Canon 5D II when it came out. I didn't realize how limited it was until I replaced it with the Mark III. Also, ask your friend how many shots he's taken with the camera. If over 150,000 you may be looking at a shutter replacement ($300).

Funny that I've been brought back to your mention of the 6D, khorinek. I just noticed Adorama is running a special on new 6D bodies for $999 and Jet Cameras for $809 (USA?). KEH used/like new at $899. I also found this interesting eval of the 6D. Don't know it's date...or accuracy, but it's pretty high praise, I'd say.
https://kenrockwell.com/canon/6d.htm

Having just jumped on a local sale of a used, but nice Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM Autofocus Telephoto for $750, seeing those prices and remembering your remark reignited my interest in full-frame. But no, I'm all spent out and willing to shoot what I have for a bit longer as I test how this lens compares with my Tamron on the crop sensor 60D.

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robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

whlsdn wrote:

Oops! Sorry, robertjerl. In replying with quote to the final note on the previous page, I didn't even see your note at the top of this page. Thanks that observation.

Is all right.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

whlsdn wrote:

Funny that I've been brought back to your mention ... (show quote)

6D was my first FF dslr, I loved it and took some great shots with it. Once just to see how it did in really low light I took a shot of the back yard by full moon - it tried to deliver a full color image when I expected black silhouettes of the fence and trees. I should have kept it for my wife or daughter but traded it towards my 5DIV - which I love just as much. And my wife seems OK with that. When she said "I want a better camera." (I had gotten her an SX-50 which is now a backup.) I found a T6s/760D with 4 lenses from Ebay for $600, it is in like new condition and smaller/lighter than a FF would be, esp with the EF-S lenses.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

robertjerl wrote:

6D was my first FF dslr, I loved it and took some ... (show quote)

That's good to know about the 6D, robertjerl, thanks. I've been reading about the T6s and it sure sounds like the best Rebel ever. I haven't seen a deal quite like that one though.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

robertjerl wrote:

When she said "I want a better camera," I found a T6s/760D with 4 lenses from Ebay for $600, it is in like new condition and smaller/lighter than a FF would be, esp with the EF-S lenses.

Well, robertjerl, guess what popped up on the local Facebook Marketplace this morning. I had just marked SOLD an ad I'd posted to sell the T5i I purchased used in the process of securing one of my Tamron lenses...followed by making sure that my granddaughter wouldn't prefer it over the T6 I had gotten in the same kind of lens finding adventure (She didn't.)

Here is today's find. I may be selling my 60D and hanging onto this for the next few months (years?). I'll keep both for a while and stew on it. Meantime, it looks much better than the seller's photo suggests. I already ordered Canon batteries and charger. Funny, finding both this and the Canon L tele were happenstance...ads just popped up fresh while I was cleaning up other stuff.

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

whlsdn wrote:

Well, robertjerl, guess what popped up on the loca... (show quote)

If I'm not mistaken, the image is of a FF body and APS-C only lens.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

PHRubin wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the image is of a FF body and APS-C only lens.

Well, that would be a surprise! I don't think any Rebel is FF, is it? The lens shown took the test photo as soon as I could get the camera to a nearby BestBuy to buy an SD card. (1st picture)

Even my new/old EF "WonderLens" (bought the day before) fits this T6s too. Though, in the second picture, that lens was on my 60D, today it was on the T6s (bought yesterday for $300).

The third photo is one of several I was able to get this foggy morning with the 70-200 L attached to the T6s.

Not to say that I would be disappointed to have purchased a 24 MP F-F camera, PHRubin! Even with an inappropriate lens.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Not FF, a T6s, top of the Rebel line until the 7 series came out. 24 mp APS-C, current replacement is the 77D

PHRubin wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the image is of a FF body and APS-C only lens.

PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA

robertjerl wrote:

Not FF, a T6s, top of the Rebel line until the 7 series came out. 24 mp APS-C, current replacement is the 77D

Right, my error.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

crazydaddio wrote:

Go full frame. Life changing experience...lol. br ... (show quote)

A new reply to your prescient input is a good way for me to try to report back to all those who were kind enough to chime in when I asked for input on this topic that, at the time, had my head spinning. I choose yours because ....well, you'll see.

I now have a Canon 5D Mark III that looks virtually new. The book's cover lies. Shutter count is beyond predicted lifespan. Significantly. I did get it at a good price, but was also misled about the camera's usage. Still, I won't worry about that issue until it the shutter quits clicking. (Anyone know what Canon charges to install a new shutter? Everything else about this camera says it'll be worth it, but what will reality say?)

With the 5D, I still have the Lumix GX85. Yep, you were right! With that 100-300mm lens on, I'm getting fine wildlife closeups. I've put my 45-150 f/4.0-5.6 lens up for sale, since my other two lenses cover the span from 12mm to 100mm.

My third camera is now a Rebel T6s, which happened along before this thread essentially died with me saying I was biding my time with what I had for the time being. (Short time being.) That model was brought to my attention as a good, lower price-point APS-C Canon also by someone else in this conversation.

I've just this week added to my L lenses with a used Canon 24-105mm 1:4 L IS USM Macro, and I've put the last 2 of my EF-S lenses up for sale (another suggestion made here that resonated). Also very recently purchased a used Tamron 28–300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD AF for those times when I want compact, light-weight versatility. For now, the lens usually residing on the T6s is a Tamron SP AF 28–75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical [IF] MACRO, but with the 24-105L available, I might just decide to sell this nice little lens. It just works so well, I'd hate to part with it.

Anyway, while I intend to add just a few more short, specific notes, this is my THANK YOU to all who took time to comment here.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

jeryh wrote:

Just a little tip; get EF lenses for your camera, then you can use them on any of the EOS bodies !

If you read my latest reply to crazydaddio above, jeryh, you'll see that your suggestion made perfect sense to me. Thanks.

whlsdn Loc: Colorado

khorinek wrote:

I would not buy a used canon mark II for $600. You can get a used canon 6D for about the same price and the 6D is a full frame camera with better ISO capabilities. Maybe save up for the 6D II. I used the Canon 5D II when it came out. I didn't realize how limited it was until I replaced it with the Mark III. Also, ask your friend how many shots he's taken with the camera. If over 150,000 you may be looking at a shutter replacement ($300).

khorinek, well, as you can see from the above note to crazydaddio, I too now have a 5D Mark III....and I'm loving it. If shutter replacement is still in the neighborhood of $300 when the last click clacks, which could occur early in my ownership, then I'll miss the 5D while it's gone, but I'll consider it a worthwhile investment.

Before ever using it - and getting attached to it - I took the 5D to C.R.I.S. in Chandler, AZ for servicing. With my fingers crossed that they would not call to tell me it turned up on a list of stolen cameras and was being sent to its rightful owners. In fact, the ad clearly displayed the serial number, and I had checked that possibility as thoroughly as I could in advance. Guess it's mine, old shutter and all.