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Jan 21, 2019 20:11:24   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
boberic wrote:
What many overlook is the cost of bringing a new drug to market. Over 500 million...


Actually more. Not defending any position on this - just became curious. 2013 data from Wiki: I note that there are 2 British, 2 Swiss, 1 French and 7 American companies represented here (if I counted correctly)



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Jan 21, 2019 20:27:18   #
LittleRed
 
thom w wrote:
Stay there till the procedure is completed? I had my hernia repaired 30 years ago and I was only there a couple of hours.


When you have to come to Toronto from quite a distance the Clinic usually recommends that you stay reasonably close for a short period of time in case any problems should arise. It is totally dependent on how sever the hernia problem was. A good friend of mine had a hernia done locally by the mesh method that after a period of time turned bad. He travelled to the Shouldice Clinic to have it redone/repaired. To do this he had to travel about 1500 km (1000 miles) to get to the Toronto area (over 2hrs by jet ) from Thunder Bay in Northwestern Ontario. After the corrective surgery was performed the Clinic recommended (but did not order) him stay in the area for an extra day in order he could have one more check before he returned home. I'm happy to report that this surgery which was done about 5 yrs ago was very successful and at age 80 is now in good health. I'm also happy that your surgery many years ago was completely successful and you were on your way in very short order but one must remember that there are different levels in any kind of surgery. His was fairly major while your appeared to be more minor. Like they say, "different strokes for different folks!"

LittleRed (Ron)

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Jan 21, 2019 20:36:08   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LittleRed wrote:
When you have to come to Toronto from quite a distance the Clinic usually recommends that you stay reasonably close for a short period of time in case any problems should arise. It is totally dependent on how sever the hernia problem was. A good friend of mine had a hernia done locally by the mesh method that after a period of time turned bad. He travelled to the Shouldice Clinic to have it redone/repaired. To do this he had to travel about 1500 km (1000 miles) to get to the Toronto area (over 2hrs by jet ) from Thunder Bay in Northwestern Ontario. After the corrective surgery was performed the Clinic recommended (but did not order) him stay in the area for an extra day in order he could have one more check before he returned home. I'm happy to report that this surgery which was done about 5 yrs ago was very successful and at age 80 is now in good health. I'm also happy that your surgery many years ago was completely successful and you were on your way in very short order but one must remember that there are different levels in any kind of surgery. His was fairly major while your appeared to be more minor. Like they say, "different strokes for different folks!"

LittleRed (Ron)
When you have to come to Toronto from quite a dist... (show quote)


Could Paul be going out of the country for surgery for the reason Trump says he eats McDonalds? Just asking.

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Jan 21, 2019 20:51:34   #
jcboy3
 
thom w wrote:
Could Paul be going out of the country for surgery for the reason Trump says he eats McDonalds? Just asking.


Trump eats McDonalds because he has no taste. Burger King is much better.

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Jan 21, 2019 21:30:23   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Trump eats McDonalds because he has no taste. Burger King is much better.


I believe he eats McDonalds because he doesn't employ a taster. He says the food is pre-prepared so they don't know who will be eating it and can't poison him.
Paul is not exactly the most popular guy out there. Seem to have all of the bad traits of his father and non of the redeeming ones.

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Jan 21, 2019 22:00:48   #
jcboy3
 
thom w wrote:
I believe he eats McDonalds because he doesn't employ a taster. He says the food is pre-prepared so they don't know who will be eating it and can't poison him.
Paul is not exactly the most popular guy out there. Seem to have all of the bad traits of his father and non of the redeeming ones.


Hopefully it affects mortality, in a big way.

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Jan 21, 2019 22:48:00   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
thom w wrote:
I believe he eats McDonalds because he doesn't employ a taster. He says the food is pre-prepared so they don't know who will be eating it and can't poison him. . . .


The way he has treated some of his employees and contractors, and probably business associates (think Russian oligarchs), such paranoia would be justified. The man is not one of principle.

Stan

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Jan 21, 2019 23:10:03   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
sbohne wrote:
My entire point is: this prick is AGAINST Medicare for All, or socialized medicine for average Americans, yet he will use it for his privileged self. Again: disingenuous hypocritical Conservative. Par for the course.


But he isn't using Medicare for All or it's Canadian version because he is not Canadian.
Since he is not Canadian he is a pay it yourself patient. He is going to the world's top hernia clinic and paying for it. If a Canadian citizen goes there they file a claim with the Canadian Government.

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Jan 21, 2019 23:15:13   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
OK, I just read the last couple of pages and noted the names posting. I hadn't noticed that the thread got switched to The Attic.
I will now unwatch the thread.

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Jan 21, 2019 23:26:17   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
pendennis wrote:
To expand on your point, there are any number of countries in Europe which don't develop any new drugs, either because they discourage drug development because of tax policy, or they've become dependent on socialized medicine and the efforts of those countries which do.

Drugs, as with any new product don't just pop up, ready to prescribe. One of the toughest markets to penetrate, even for domestic companies, is the U.S. The FDA is a very conservative organization. They don't take for granted tests performed in other countries. Thalidomide was a prime example of a lack of complex testing.

Most people who complain about "large pharma" don't have a clue just what goes into developing drugs.
To expand on your point, there are any number of c... (show quote)

As it turns out thalidomide is a pretty good drug. It's used today for the treatment of Hansens disease (leprosy) as well as some cancers. It just should not be given to pregnant women or women who are likely to become pregnent.

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Jan 21, 2019 23:32:14   #
LittleRed
 
robertjerl wrote:
OK, I just read the last couple of pages and noted the names posting. I hadn't noticed that the thread got switched to The Attic.
I will now unwatch the thread.


It appears lately that with any mention of Trump causes admin to switch the thread to the attic, regardless to what was posted.

LittleRed (Ron)

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Jan 22, 2019 03:34:26   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LittleRed wrote:
It appears lately that with any mention of Trump causes admin to switch the thread to the attic, regardless to what was posted.

LittleRed (Ron)


Do you think it’s done automatically, or that someone complains. It seems unlikely that he’s searching the forum. I haven’t noticed it myself.

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Jan 22, 2019 07:26:01   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
I prefer Wendy's over McDonalds and Burger King

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Jan 22, 2019 07:31:00   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Thalidomide has a very extensive Risk Evaluation Management criteria. It is still in use for Multiple Myeloma and Hansen's disease. But there are limitations for its use. Only a select few doctors can prescribe this drug for a select few patients now. Here is an interesting book called: Suffer The Children:The
Story of Thalidomide.

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Jan 22, 2019 12:33:52   #
LittleRed
 
thom w wrote:
Do you think it’s done automatically, or that someone complains. It seems unlikely that he’s searching the forum. I haven’t noticed it myself.


Don't know how it is done but it appears it is being done IMHO. I think that they/he especially keeps an eye on the non-photography threads for anything related to Trump. Just lately I submitted two posts both joke type. The first one (The New Wall) I figured would sooner or later end up in the attic as it is quite political in nature. This one had to be caught visually as there was no mention of Trump at all, only a picture of him (unless they are using face-ID software, which is possible or a personal complaint) The second post was a joke (The Lemon Picker) where Trump's name was mentioned once and it appeared to be automatically put in the attic (Possibly using a word search software or a personal complaint). This one kinda surprised me as I thought it wasn't all that political but I guess Admin disagrees. It appears that this is happening usually if his name/likeness is in the original post and once the thread is active the dreaded word Trump can be brought forth with little repercussions as I see multiple places where this has happened. Like I said previously perhaps it is due to a complaint from a pro-Trumper which to me would be the best possible answer as there are a lot of them out there. It's sad to me that any mention of Trump or Obama to name two makes the post attic bound regardless of the content. But Admin has the last call and in order for this blog remain at least a bit under control this sadly has to be as it is.

LittleRed (Ron)

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