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Jan 18, 2019 18:21:29   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm biting my tongue, actually fingers.
--Bob
Linda From Maine wrote:
Only 'til selmslie shows up Sorry, couldn't resist. But you know, as well as I, that this topic will be 8 pages long by Saturday night, and it won't have anything to do with novices learning exposure.

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Jan 18, 2019 18:24:24   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm biting my tongue, actually fingers.
--Bob
Minnie advises putting on mittens; not as much lasting damage that way

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Jan 18, 2019 18:26:04   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Only 'til selmslie shows up Sorry, couldn't resist. But you know, as well as I, that this topic will be 8 pages long by Saturday night, and it won't have anything to do with novices learning exposure.

Why the nasty comment? Don’t you have anything constructive to offer? Why behave like a troll?

Nothing Bob has said so far is wrong.

Are you trying to hijack this thread?

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Jan 18, 2019 18:33:41   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
selmslie wrote:
Why the nasty comment? Don’t you have anything constructive to offer? Why behave like a troll?

Nothing Bob has said so far is wrong.

Are you trying to hijack this thread?
ROTFLMAO

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Jan 18, 2019 19:05:01   #
BebuLamar
 
Bob, I think what you posted is very good. Much better than the triangle. However, I think it's a lot more simple than that. In fact I think it's so simple that you wouldn't need any graphic illustrations.

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Jan 18, 2019 19:17:33   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Bob, I think what you posted is very good. Much better than the triangle. However, I think it's a lot more simple than that. In fact I think it's so simple that you wouldn't need any graphic illustrations.

If someone already understands the subject the visual aids and metaphors are not necessary.

But this thread is for people just starting out. Every little bit helps.

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Jan 18, 2019 19:25:07   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Thanks for taking time to comment. The scale and equating it to the camera will probably help someone who is just starting out and trying to understand the concepts. That's my aim with this series. The people who know this stuff like the back of their hand will find the entire series very boring. So, this one is dedicated to the newbies with hopes of helping them along on their photographic journey.
--Bob
BebuLamar wrote:
Bob, I think what you posted is very good. Much better than the triangle. However, I think it's a lot more simple than that. In fact I think it's so simple that you wouldn't need any graphic illustrations.

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Jan 18, 2019 19:25:33   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Scotty, thanks for the support.
--Bob
selmslie wrote:
If someone already understands the subject the visual aids and metaphors are not necessary.

But this thread is for people just starting out. Every little bit helps.

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Jan 18, 2019 19:25:34   #
Mister H Loc: Michigan
 
rmalarz wrote:
I’m contributing this article to explain exposure for those beginning your exploration of photography. It is key to understand some very fundamental principles in order to produce an optimum quality image. One typical reference is constantly made to a time honored device, The Exposure Triangle. That seems to introduce a bit of confusion. Let’s simplify this entire concept with something with which almost everyone has, at least, a passing acquaintance, something that is dynamic in nature. However, before we start, let’s get a couple of definitions established. So we are all discussing the same concepts across the board, let’s set a couple of descriptions for the purpose of this article. These are not my arbitrarily made up definitions. They are definitions accepted throughout the photographic world.

Exposure
In photography, it’s how much light is allowed through an opening and for how long. That’s it. And, it’s that simple.

Photographic Exposure
This involves the above definition, but includes a light sensitive material (film or sensor) upon which the light coming through a lens, or pinhole, is allowed to fall.

It is understood that the reader of this article is familiar enough with the settings of their camera where it comes to ISO, Aperture, and Shutter Speed. The idea is to balance the amount of light with a duration to effectively expose the light sensitive material optimally. That is all we are trying to accomplish.

So, with balance being brought into the discussion, let’s imagine a scale, very much like the Scales of Justice. We have a beam from which is suspended two platforms, one from either end. The idea is that the ideal exposure will occur when the balance is perfectly level. The platform on the left side will represent the camera body (where the ISO stuff happens). The platform on the right side will represent the lens aperture and shutter speed stuff.

We have a set of weights that go on the left side of the balance, and only on the left side. These weights are labeled ISO. They are in values of 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, etc. Weights for the other side of the scale are labeled f/1.4, f/2.8, f/3.5, f/4.6, f/5.6, etc. and 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, etc. The weights on this side are designed to be used together in some combination.

We now have all the tools to determine a means to associate the three weights. If the beam is perfectly horizontal, we have the correct settings for an optimum exposure. For example, let’s say we have a scene that requires a setting of f/11 at 1/125 of a second to balance an ISO of 125. If we choose to change the f/11 weight to f/5.6, we are either going to have to change the 1/125 weight to another value to make the scale balance again. In this case, the 1/125 weight would have to be replaced by one of value 1/500.

There is a one to one ratio in the manner in which the right hand weights work. As we saw in the above example, we changed the f/stop weight 2 units, f/11 -> f/8 ->f/5.6, we had to change the associated weight by two units, 1/125 -> 1/250 -> 1/500, as well.

If we change the left hand side of the scale, we are going to need to change one or both of the right hand scale to keep things in balance. It’s all that simple. Once this simple concept is understood one can see that exposure becomes a system management situation. Understanding the systems completely will aid in making consistently better exposures.
--Bob
I’m contributing this article to explain exposure ... (show quote)


Thank you for the time you spend helping those of us learning the ins and outs. I know there will be contradictions, but we learn from that kind of friendly (hopefully) conversation. Look forward to your next installments.

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Jan 18, 2019 20:04:13   #
Bipod
 
Just remember to stick corks into empty light bulb sockets so that the
electricity doesn't run out. (Got this tip from James Thurber.)

Oh yeah, another thing: you don't need a self-timer if you can run fast
enough to beat the light.

See, science is easy! No need for all that stupid math and stuff
(mostly made up by a bunch of foreigners, Germans, immigrants, etc.)
I'll take good old American common sense any day!

I can't explain why that silly old fogey Ansel Adams took 100 pages
to explain how meters set exposure. Guess he just didn't know
much about photography and was trying to confuse people. Probably
just a smokescreen to conceal his lack of talent.

(In others words; why assume that beginning photographers are complete
idiots about science and math? Because we are in the USA? Not everybody
in America is a science-denier and a Twitter-head.)

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Jan 18, 2019 20:39:34   #
srt101fan
 
Bipod wrote:
Just remember to stick corks into empty light bulb sockets so that the
electricity doesn't run out. (Got this tip from James Thurber.)

Oh yeah, another thing: you don't need a self-timer if you can run fast
enough to beat the light.

See, science is easy! No need for all that stupid math and stuff
(mostly made up by a bunch of foreigners, Germans, immigrants, etc.)
I'll take good old American common sense any day!

I can't explain why that silly old fogey Ansel Adams took 100 pages
to explain how meters set exposure. Guess he just didn't know
much about photography and was trying to confuse people. Probably
just a smokescreen to conceal his lack of talent.

(In others words; why assume that beginning photographers are complete
idiots about science and math? Because we are in the USA? Not everybody
in America is a science-denier and a Twitter-head.)
Just remember to stick corks into empty light bulb... (show quote)


Settle down and take your meds, Bipod......

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Jan 18, 2019 20:58:51   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Bipod wrote:
Just remember to stick corks into empty light bulb sockets so that the
electricity doesn't run out. (Got this tip from James Thurber.)

Oh yeah, another thing: you don't need a self-timer if you can run fast
enough to beat the light.

See, science is easy! No need for all that stupid math and stuff
(mostly made up by a bunch of foreigners, Germans, immigrants, etc.)
I'll take good old American common sense any day!

I can't explain why that silly old fogey Ansel Adams took 100 pages
to explain how meters set exposure. Guess he just didn't know
much about photography and was trying to confuse people. Probably
just a smokescreen to conceal his lack of talent.

(In others words; why assume that beginning photographers are complete
idiots about science and math? Because we are in the USA? Not everybody
in America is a science-denier and a Twitter-head.)
Just remember to stick corks into empty light bulb... (show quote)


There are many types of readers here, including a large proportion of newbies. Some will turn into gearheads rather than photographers. Some will pursue knowledge with the thirst of a desert traveler. Some will learn just enough to take better pictures of their grandchildren and pets.

But all will start out with the fundamentals, and Bob’s presentation and analogies are a lot clearer than all this “exposure triangle” stuff.

I do agree with you about the dumbing down of many Americans, but I don’t think this contributes to it.

Andy

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Jan 18, 2019 22:31:01   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Actually I think the Exposure Triangle is the most appropriate metaphor for the digital age because equal accessibility is now available to ISO. So a three equal-sided metaphor works best.
AndyH wrote:
Great stuff, Bob! A real throwback explained in a new way.



Actually, this is the "old" way many of us were taught in the 50s and 60s, when ISO was pretty much limited and considered a fixed quantity for most working photographers, a way of lowering the quantity you have to have on the other end of the balance.

My first photography teacher explained it that your image was a bucketful of light. Higher film speeds represented a smaller bucket, slower film speeds a larger one.

You could fill the bucket by turning the faucet on to a trickle or wide open - this is your aperture. If you turned it down to a trickle, you'd need to leave it open for a longer "shutter speed". If you opened the tap wide open, you could fill the bucket faster, hence a shorter shutter speed.

I really like Bob's analogy though - perfect for the new digital age.

Andy
Great stuff, Bob! A real throwback explained in a ... (show quote)

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Jan 19, 2019 00:38:22   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Actually I think the Exposure Triangle is the most appropriate metaphor for the digital age because equal accessibility is now available to ISO. So a three equal-sided metaphor works best.

Wait, this is only part 1.

Even if you include ISO in the metaphor to make a triangle, there are still three additional elements that are seldom talked about because we take them for granted.

There is no single unified metaphor that's going to easily cover all six elements for the beginner.

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Jan 19, 2019 06:46:31   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
That makes a lot more sense than any of the exposure triangle explanations I have read.

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