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Jan 17, 2019 16:58:03   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
IDguy wrote:
Then to confuse the clarification:


LOL!! That’s great! Typical Nikon.

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Jan 17, 2019 17:56:17   #
pego101
 
Yes but it doesnt lock the focus for me maybe just for that picture but not picture to picture

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Jan 17, 2019 19:17:12   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
pego101 wrote:
Yes but it doesnt lock the focus for me maybe just for that picture but not picture to picture


Right. I don’t get why it wanders.

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Jan 17, 2019 19:52:03   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
In A8 I unchecked Dynamic Focus and Auto Area
Not sure that's the issue, but my single point focus stays where I put it, using the Joy Stick

In AF-C , according to the manual, the box doesn't turn green because it could be going back and forth from green to red much too often.

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Jan 17, 2019 20:05:17   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Bill_de wrote:
In A8 I unchecked Dynamic Focus and Auto Area
Not sure that's the issue, but my single point focus stays where I put it, using the Joy Stick

In AF-C , according to the manual, the box doesn't turn green because it could be going back and forth from green to red much too often.

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I’ll check on A8.

In AF-C it never shows green. It is a firmware bug. I saw it reported by some pro testers.

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Jan 18, 2019 06:12:56   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Steve Perry wrote:
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exactly what happens in 3D mode. If you're in single point and it's moving around, it's probably because you're inadvertently moving the joystick or multi-touch pad. If it helps, you can set the joystick so when you press it the AF point re-centers.

To do so, head to the Custom Setting Menu, F2, and select the joystick in the left column - 3rd one down. Click that and choose "Select center focus point" from the resulting menu. Hit OK.

Now, when it wanders off, just press in on the joystick.
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exact... (show quote)


Sound information. Why does that happen in the first place?? That has never happened with my D610.

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Jan 18, 2019 06:21:21   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
The problems I have encountered with the Z6 and Z7 are mostly self-inflicted. I am not comfortable yet but it is because I don't really don't trust either camera to the same degree I trust my D850 and D500. I'm waiting for you to publish your findings.
Steve Perry wrote:
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exactly what happens in 3D mode. If you're in single point and it's moving around, it's probably because you're inadvertently moving the joystick or multi-touch pad. If it helps, you can set the joystick so when you press it the AF point re-centers.

To do so, head to the Custom Setting Menu, F2, and select the joystick in the left column - 3rd one down. Click that and choose "Select center focus point" from the resulting menu. Hit OK.

Now, when it wanders off, just press in on the joystick.
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exact... (show quote)

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Jan 18, 2019 07:12:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
pego101 wrote:
I like the Z6 but the major problem I am having is the red focus box moving around on its own. Wish there was a way to lock it in the center. On my last shoot I noticed a bunch of pictures out of focus and I assume were caused by the red box in the corner before I noticed it and moved it back to the center. Has anyone else had problems with the focus box moving around?


Without having looked in the manual, I bet there is a way to set it right in the center, but not in Auto mode.

Buy this book. Many of us here have bought it.

https://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/

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Jan 18, 2019 09:02:37   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Ii have been reading up as I am looking at a Z6 soon. By chance do you have focus set on Wide-area or Auto AF rather than single point? I understand it has a different focus system, similar but not same as D5 and has a learning curve!


Currently the D500, D850, D5, and the Z's all have the same separate focus software. In addition the Z's are using an EXCEED 6 processor. The other three have the EXCEED 5 processor.

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Jan 18, 2019 09:05:12   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
traderjohn wrote:
Sound information. Why does that happen in the first place?? That has never happened with my D610.


I don't know. I don't have the problem. My guess is that it's probably the joystick rubbing on clothing when it's hanging around a neck or maybe the joystick gets moved when the camera is put into a bag or something. I don't use straps and don't have the issue, hence the guess. Still, I really don't know...

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Jan 18, 2019 09:07:12   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
DavidPine wrote:
The problems I have encountered with the Z6 and Z7 are mostly self-inflicted. I am not comfortable yet but it is because I don't really don't trust either camera to the same degree I trust my D850 and D500. I'm waiting for you to publish your findings.


I have a Z6 and while I like it, I agree it's not quite as trustworthy as the D850, at least with AF. Metering and such is fine, and I like using the entire frame for AF, but the truth is the AF system just isn't on par with Nikon's better cameras, at least not for any kind of action scenario. You can make it work, but the success rate is higher with the D850, etc.

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Jan 18, 2019 09:10:55   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Steve Perry wrote:
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exactly what happens in 3D mode. If you're in single point and it's moving around, it's probably because you're inadvertently moving the joystick or multi-touch pad. If it helps, you can set the joystick so when you press it the AF point re-centers.

To do so, head to the Custom Setting Menu, F2, and select the joystick in the left column - 3rd one down. Click that and choose "Select center focus point" from the resulting menu. Hit OK.

Now, when it wanders off, just press in on the joystick.
You're 100% sure you're not in 3D AF? That's exact... (show quote)


Ok...When is the next Steve Perry UglyHedgehog Nikon Photo Seminar? Make it someplace nice. Maybe we could all go out and shoot with Gregory45!!

Have B&H onsite and bring credit cards!!

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Jan 18, 2019 09:17:12   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Steve Perry wrote:
I have a Z6 and while I like it, I agree it's not quite as trustworthy as the D850, at least with AF. Metering and such is fine, and I like using the entire frame for AF, but the truth is the AF system just isn't on par with Nikon's better cameras, at least not for any kind of action scenario. You can make it work, but the success rate is higher with the D850, etc.

That is what I am hearing from Z6 users.

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Jan 18, 2019 09:19:11   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
SteveR wrote:
Ok...When is the next Steve Perry UglyHedgehog Nikon Photo Seminar? Make it someplace nice. Maybe we could all go out and shoot with Gregory45!!

Have B&H onsite and bring credit cards!!


LOL sounds good - I'll start looking towards the Caribbean!

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Jan 18, 2019 09:46:17   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Without having looked in the manual, I bet there is a way to set it right in the center, but not in Auto mode.

Buy this book. Many of us here have bought it.

https://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/


As noted above, you can move it to the center by pressing the subselector joystick. Or by touching the screen. The problem is it doesn’t stay there.

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