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Jan 17, 2019 20:42:13   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Kiritm wrote:
Robert,
Thanks for your well articulated response!
I use a laptop and a PC to store my photos. If I modify a photo in laptop LR and later open my PC, will LR on PC see the modified photo? In other words, does LR sync the photos between multiple devices? I am not sure if Bridge does that. Thanks!


Yes, but you must use the export as catalog feature and then the import as catalog feature. These two commands allow you to export the metadata from one LR catalog into another LR catalog. You can choose to export original files or not. If you have already imported the original files into the desktop machine you would only need to export/import the actual catalog of metadata changes. See the Help manual in LR online for more info. Do not make any name changes to your files on the desktop before you import the changes.

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Jan 17, 2019 21:10:53   #
Kiritm
 
Thanks, that’s good to know!
Does Bridge work the same way?

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Jan 17, 2019 21:42:52   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Kiritm wrote:
Thanks, that’s good to know!
Does Bridge work the same way?


I have no idea about how Bridge works as I have never used it. I use LR and PS and a couple of other processing programs and since I use LR I have no need to use Bridge.

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Jan 17, 2019 21:45:54   #
Kiritm
 
Understood. Thanks again!

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Jan 17, 2019 21:52:16   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Kiritm wrote:
Understood. Thanks again!


What I can say is that LR is a wonderful program and allows the user to find any photo within seconds as long as they are searching by a keyword they have put in or by a variety of metadata. LR will do almost everything you need for processing most landscape and nature images. If you are a professional photographing people you might need another program. I do use PS, but I don't use the PS processing tools for the most part. I do my processing in LR, both general and specific processing. I use PS for layering, for removing larger items, removing a lot of small items such as bugs or debris, and for sharpening some images. There are also many other good processing programs available but I like LR because I can do a slideshow, create a book, or print to a printer as needed, among other things.

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Jan 17, 2019 23:16:53   #
Kiritm
 
Thank you! This is helpful. I have been using Bridge to do the same type of editing but I like organising feature of LR as many have suggested. It seems I should add LR to my resources.

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Jan 18, 2019 06:58:31   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
IDguy wrote:
Lightroom is a very sophisticated editing tool. Most photographers with both Lightroom and Photoshop do over 90% of their editing in Lightroom alone and rarely if ever use Photoshop.

Lightroom is much easier to learn and use than Photoshop. Exceptional Lightroom features include synching edits to many images at once, easy to save and apply presets, and the catalog library functions including keywording and filtering (some of which you might be able to do in the Photoshop associated Bridge program).

But, as noted, Photoshop has many more features: IMHO illogically arranged and inconsistently applied. The biggest advantage I see is the ability to use layers which opens a new world of editing.
Lightroom is a very sophisticated editing tool. Mo... (show quote)


Agree!

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Jan 18, 2019 07:03:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Kiritm wrote:
I have recently subscribed to Photoshop. I have limited experience with LR (on trial basis).
PS seems to have more features than LR does. What are the features am I missing out on by not subscribing to LR?


They are considerably different from each other, but they are both good to have, know, and use.

http://blog.creativelive.com/use-photoshop-lightroom/
https://photographylife.com/photoshop-vs-lightroom/

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Jan 18, 2019 07:58:08   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Kiritm wrote:
I have recently subscribed to Photoshop. I have limited experience with LR (on trial basis).
PS seems to have more features than LR does. What are the features am I missing out on by not subscribing to LR?


I get the photographers version and get LR and Photoshop for about $10.00 per month. LR was easier to grasp from the start, but if I need to transfer images I can from LR to Photoshop with the click of a button and back again. Photoshop has more tools and takes a longer time to master, at least, for me it is still an on going process.

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Jan 18, 2019 08:02:17   #
johnst1001a Loc: West Chester, Ohio
 
And where did you get the 90% number

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Jan 18, 2019 08:48:24   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Actually the subscription gets you FULL access to both for $9.95 a month.
LR is very BASIC editing software and designed primarily for cataloging image files.
PS is VERY complete editing software, the gold standard in the editing market.


I would have to disagree on this statement. I rarely use PS, but do almost everything in LR. PS allows you to do things like clone out objects (which LR can do, but is limited), replace backgrounds, and much more advanced things like compositing, adding text, etc. However, in LR, you can do all the things you really need to do - adjust the exposure, black and white point, highlights, burn in or dodge elements of the photo that need it, sharpen, dehaze, and more.
PS of course can do all of those, too, but it is much more complicated, and you have to "open" each photo individually, which takes time. If it is a raw photo, you first go to ACR and guess what - you are using the same adjustments as in LR! And then, after all of that, you need to save it (a .psd file or .tif or whatever. Then if you need a jpeg for upload or whatever, you need to export it, too. Yes, you need to export in LR if you want a jpeg, but it is CTRL-SHIFT-E and Enter. Done. Very quick.
Sorry for the rant, but LR is often short changed and is actually very powerful.

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Jan 18, 2019 08:52:21   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
I agree. Lightroom is much more than a very basic program for cataloging only. Also you can print, make slide shows ,map photo locations etc.

rond-photography wrote:
I would have to disagree on this statement. I rarely use PS, but do almost everything in LR. PS allows you to do things like clone out objects (which LR can do, but is limited), replace backgrounds, and much more advanced things like compositing, adding text, etc. However, in LR, you can do all the things you really need to do - adjust the exposure, black and white point, highlights, burn in or dodge elements of the photo that need it, sharpen, dehaze, and more.
PS of course can do all of those, too, but it is much more complicated, and you have to "open" each photo individually, which takes time. If it is a raw photo, you first go to ACR and guess what - you are using the same adjustments as in LR! And then, after all of that, you need to save it (a .psd file or .tif or whatever. Then if you need a jpeg for upload or whatever, you need to export it, too. Yes, you need to export in LR if you want a jpeg, but it is CTRL-SHIFT-E and Enter. Done. Very quick.
Sorry for the rant, but LR is often short changed and is actually very powerful.
I would have to disagree on this statement. I rar... (show quote)

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Jan 18, 2019 09:28:01   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
Photoshop includes a built-in plugin called ACR or Adobe Camera Raw. This is basically the same EXIF nondestructive editor that Lightroom is. Every single slider that you can adjust in ACR, is exactly the same as if you had moved the same slider in LR. They are exactly the same. The difference is how the interface looks. Which doesn't mean a hell of a lot especially to those old time Photoshop users that started using ACR a long time ago. Many of those users don't migrate over to LR. But LR does have some OTHER features that are not included in the Photoshop application. Those are mostly features that have to do with organizing your picture files. But Photoshop also includes another built-in app that's called Bridge. This is Photoshop's organizer for your photos. Old time Photoshop users that have been using Bridge for a long time also sometimes choose not to migrate over to LR. Most newer Photoshop users start with both LR and Photoshop and don't venture into Bridge or ACR. They find that LR is simpler and sometimes they don't even open the photo into Photoshop.

The biggest difference between LR and PS is that PS is a Pixel editing software that does change the physical properties of the file that can and will make the pixels change therefore creating a completely different and new file from the original file. That doesn't mean that you will destroy the original file, but that you can and will if you don't know what you are doing. Yes, PS is way more complicated than LR.
Photoshop includes a built-in plugin called ACR or... (show quote)


Wow, an accurate description for a change! Good deal Jeep_Daddy.

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Jan 18, 2019 09:51:04   #
Raptor
 
Thanks for this input. I have finally made peace with LR (understand it's structure, power and how it makes my life easier) and and want to start learning PS. I got Scott Kelby's PS book for Christmas. Eventually I want to know to apply the gee-wiz cool effects in PS. One day at a time. I love making landscape, street and images that feel spiritual. Your post on workflow was spot on.
Keep posting everyone.
Thanks

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Jan 18, 2019 16:45:53   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Actually the subscription gets you FULL access to both for $9.95 a month.
LR is very BASIC editing software and designed primarily for cataloging image files.
PS is VERY complete editing software, the gold standard in the editing market.



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