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Jan 16, 2019 12:58:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
juan_uy wrote:
In this case I think the vertical one is much stronger. In comparison the horizontal one feels more cramped.
Because of the sky?

I don't know why I clipped the edge off the right side of the river - inattention or I couldn't step back far enough, can't recall. Thanks!

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Jan 16, 2019 13:36:21   #
Bob Locher Loc: Southwest Oregon
 
Great picture! I completely agree with Juan.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:18:21   #
juan_uy Loc: Uruguay
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Because of the sky?

I don't know why I clipped the edge off the right side of the river - inattention or I couldn't step back far enough, can't recall. Thanks!


Not sure, probably the additional sky gives "more breath space" (not sure if that translates my idea). Also, may be the small bush on the right adds distraction on the horizontal one?

I agree with clipped edge on the right, although it didn't bother me the first time I view it.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:42:34   #
kenievans Loc: Dallas
 
Here are two shots I took within seconds of each other of the Yellowstone river. The landscape has always been my favorite for its breadth and depth but I think the second one gives more of a sense height and makes the river more prominent.


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Jan 16, 2019 14:48:10   #
Bob Locher Loc: Southwest Oregon
 
The first shot is great - until you see the second shot - which is really stellar! But both are very worthy.

Nice!

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Jan 16, 2019 14:51:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
juan_uy wrote:
In this case I think the vertical one is much stronger. In comparison the horizontal one feels more cramped.


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Jan 16, 2019 15:11:14   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Juan, thanks for the additional feedback.

kenievans wrote:
Here are two shots I took within seconds of each other of the Yellowstone river. The landscape has always been my favorite for its breadth and depth but I think the second one gives more of a sense height and makes the river more prominent.
High impact for me. Having that close tree in #2 helps me feel more "there" while at the same time you're far enough away to include much of the setting, and the depth is fantastic. It's a gorgeous viewpoint + looks like perfect weather and time of day - hard to go wrong either way, but yep, #2 for me also.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:41:36   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
....I don't know why I clipped the edge off the right side of the river - inattention or I couldn't step back far enough, can't recall....


I find that my normally dependable sense of composition can be caught out when I use portrait orientation.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:46:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
R.G. wrote:
I find that my normally dependable sense of composition can be caught out when I use portrait orientation.
Perhaps it is easier when most elements in the frame are oriented north to south? The simplicity and organization?



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Jan 16, 2019 15:51:02   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Perhaps it is easier when most elements in the frame are oriented north to south? The simplicity and organization?


Or maybe you get distracted by the vertical elements and end up not paying enough attention to the sides.....

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Jan 16, 2019 16:06:54   #
kenievans Loc: Dallas
 
I think vertical elements do make a difference. In the case of my two images the very vertical tree in the foreground would not have worked in the landscape version. I think it would have been distracting. I know we sometimes use natural framing but most often they have a curved element to them not straight up and down.

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Jan 17, 2019 07:07:15   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Great discussion thread, Jayem!

I found two I had shot at same focal length. That is probably rare for everyone because of composition goals and storytelling, as has been touched on - including clickety's reminder to "work the scene" Like our OP, it looks like I did step closer for the vertical of this pair.

These are at 14 mm on an M4/3 camera, Pansonic G7 (2x crop factor). A related note about aspect: my two mirrorless cameras are 4:3. I changed the Panasonic to 3:2, even though I'm throwing away pixels, because it's the camera I use most often for landscapes, including "intimate" landscapes such as reeds, plants, flowers, single trees. I came from film (35 mm = 3:2) and my two dslr's were 3:2. I just really like composing for 3:2 - even if it means I occasionally end up cropping off a little bit of sky on the vertical shots. For purpose of this discussion, these are not cropped.
Great discussion thread, Jayem! br br I found two... (show quote)


I hesitate to critique these pics - but I think the landscape needs more sky and the vertical has too much. Perhaps a square format or 4/3 would be better?

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Jan 17, 2019 07:37:33   #
JayemCO Loc: Colorado @ 9000 feet
 
First off many thanks to Linda for suggesting in a previous post that maybe a topic such as this would be a great idea, she was right and thanks to the many that have provided great thought provoking comments.

Several have mentioned that a vertical element is necessary for a vertical format to be effective and I agree completely. However in Kenievans beautiful pictures of the Yellowstone River, I saw very little vertical element in her horizontal picture. A great shot, but typical landscape photo. When I saw her vertical image, I realized that the flat top hill was a vertical element and that the washed out (from water runoff not overexposure) white base was trying to climb the vertical hill to turn the entire hill white. I saw it because the lone pine tree top in the lower left pointed to it.

Sometimes (many times?) what we see is not what turns up on the digital image. Since a second or third digital image is really cheap when I am standing on a ridge taking pictures, I will be taking vertical as well as traditional horizontal images in the future.

Again thanks for all the wonderful comments.

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Jan 17, 2019 07:57:25   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Delderby wrote:
I hesitate to critique these pics - but I think the landscape needs more sky and the vertical has too much. Perhaps a square format or 4/3 would be better?
No need to hesitate; all is good! Yes, I would have cropped some from the sky on the vertical, but for the thread's purpose I decided to leave as shot. I do sometimes like more sky just because we have these long views all around Yakima and it seems so natural. In this case, the canyon with the river has a different feel - more intimate. Many thanks.
JayemCO wrote:
First off many thanks to Linda for suggesting in a previous post that maybe a topic such as this would be a great idea, she was right and thanks to the many that have provided great thought provoking comments.

Several have mentioned that a vertical element is necessary for a vertical format to be effective and I agree completely. However in Kenievans beautiful pictures of the Yellowstone River, I saw very little vertical element in her horizontal picture. A great shot, but typical landscape photo. When I saw her vertical image, I realized that the flat top hill was a vertical element and that the washed out (from water runoff not overexposure) white base was trying to climb the vertical hill to turn the entire hill white. I saw it because the lone pine tree top in the lower left pointed to it.

Sometimes (many times?) what we see is not what turns up on the digital image. Since a second or third digital image is really cheap when I am standing on a ridge taking pictures, I will be taking vertical as well as traditional horizontal images in the future.

Again thanks for all the wonderful comments.
First off many thanks to Linda for suggesting in a... (show quote)
Appreciate your running with it!

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Jan 17, 2019 07:59:00   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
kenievans wrote:
Here are two shots I took within seconds of each other of the Yellowstone river. The landscape has always been my favorite for its breadth and depth but I think the second one gives more of a sense height and makes the river more prominent.


Yes - the vertical shot has that something extra that makes it a winner.

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