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Myth:- M + Auto ISO isn't manual.
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Jan 16, 2019 15:53:17   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My camera gives direct controls on aperture, shutter speed, ISO and EC of which I never use the EC.

I have a camera that doesn't give you access to any of that and it works just fine - a Brownie Bullet.

OK, so it might leave a little to be desired but for a camera that Kodak used to give away free as a promotion it still works after more than 55 years. After all, it's medium format. I just developed my first roll using a film I never heard of before and the exposures are not bad.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:54:14   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
In other words, auto ISO is as manual as P mode, or A, S, Tv, Av, or any other. It's still not M mode.

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Jan 16, 2019 15:57:11   #
BebuLamar
 
R.G. wrote:
OK. That sounds good, but it's still faster to allow the camera to give you an ISO value as opposed to dialling one in yourself. Where EC is concerned, be warned - the camera's metering CAN be caught out, and it's not always obvious when that will happen. But if your camera has a generous dynamic range you'll probably be safe in most circumstances. I, on the other hand, have to stay on my toes....


What? I set my ISO, Aperture and Shutter speed what the meter has to do with it? I don't need no EC.

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Jan 16, 2019 16:02:04   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
n3eg wrote:
In other words, auto ISO is as manual as P mode, or A, S, Tv, Av, or any other. It's still not M mode.


I can only speak for my own camera, but I can say I've looked for a simpler, quicker and less distracting way than using M+AutoISO and I haven't been able to find it. And that from a camera that has only one adjustment wheel.

And did I mention that it gives you TOTAL control over the exposure, and if you include EC it gives you control over the exposure level as well? Who cares if it's classified as manual or not?

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Jan 16, 2019 16:05:26   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
BebuLamar wrote:
What? I set my ISO, Aperture and Shutter speed what the meter has to do with it? I don't need no EC.


Are you saying you can get good exposures reliably without using the camera's meter? That would put you somewhere between unusual and unique .

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Jan 16, 2019 16:11:01   #
BebuLamar
 
R.G. wrote:
Are you saying you can get good exposures reliably without using the camera's meter? That would put you somewhere between unusual and unique .


Neither unusual nor unique. Many people can do the same.

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Jan 16, 2019 16:31:50   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Neither unusual nor unique. Many people can do the same.

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Jan 16, 2019 17:13:56   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
R.G. wrote:
The camera tells you what it thinks is an appropriate level of exposure. The rest is up to the user. And that includes controlling all three settings plus having control over the targeted level of exposure.

That's the same in all the other modes I was mentioning!

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Jan 16, 2019 17:33:01   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
R.G. wrote:
Are you saying you can get good exposures reliably without using the camera's meter? That would put you somewhere between unusual and unique .

Yes, anyone can get a good exposure without using the camera's meter. You need to look beyond reflected metering.

If you can't be bothered to read my posts then take a look at this information from Sekonic.

There are many ways to get it right. Reflected metering fails in a number of situations but then so do all of the other methods including not metering at all.

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Jan 16, 2019 19:26:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
selmslie wrote:
Yes, anyone can get a good exposure without using the camera's meter. You need to look beyond reflected metering.




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Jan 16, 2019 21:11:35   #
Elmerviking
 
R.G. wrote:
That's a bit wordy but not a bad idea. I would suggest "Assisted Manual".


How about “auto assisted manual”?
I have read many articles about auto ISO and watched many YouTube videos. None of them describes how you can control ISO by adjusting shutter speed or aperture!
Why not test it? It works great!

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Jan 16, 2019 21:16:27   #
BebuLamar
 
Elmerviking wrote:
How about “auto assisted manual”?
I have read many articles about auto ISO and watched many YouTube videos. None of them describes how you can control ISO by adjusting shutter speed or aperture!
Why not test it? It works great!


Yes you can but why?

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Jan 16, 2019 21:26:00   #
srt101fan
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes you can but why?


Why not? It's a good way to go....😊

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Jan 16, 2019 21:36:19   #
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Jan 16, 2019 21:58:11   #
srt101fan
 
User ID wrote:
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