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Jan 8, 2019 23:21:50   #
dallis Loc: Lompoc, Ca.
 
Amtrak Surf Liner passing thru Surf, Ca. It passes thru Vandenberg AFB, same route that Kruschev took back in 59, he was treated to the site of an Atlas ICBM sitting on its pad fueled and ready to go.


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Jan 8, 2019 23:40:46   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Good one.
Thanks for taking us there.
I know a guy who worked there in the early 1960's.

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Jan 8, 2019 23:50:01   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
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Jan 9, 2019 08:58:42   #
SpyderJan Loc: New Smyrna Beach. FL
 
Great shot, Nicely composed. Trains! Trains! Trains! Sorry, I had to do that. It was a Sheldon moment.

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Jan 9, 2019 12:12:19   #
dallis Loc: Lompoc, Ca.
 
I started work at Vandenberg in 66 with FEC/ITT, retired in 2000, mayby I know him. Thanks for the kind words.

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Jan 10, 2019 00:38:38   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
dallis wrote:
Kruschev in 59 was treated to the site of an Atlas ICBM sitting on its pad fueled and ready to go.
Moscow now has Hypersonic Nukes - for which we have No Defense.
Star Wars was scrapped, and now Kruschev (and Putin) are Laughing

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Jan 10, 2019 12:30:19   #
dallis Loc: Lompoc, Ca.
 
Or so they say, Our only ace in the hole as I see it anyway is nuclear retaliation ie: ICBM
Really nasty stuff any way you look at it. We also have been testing hypersonic hardware, not sure how successful the program has been.

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Jan 10, 2019 12:49:25   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Moscow now has Hypersonic Nukes - for which we have No Defense.
Star Wars was scrapped, and now Kruschev (and Putin) are Laughing


I wonder if people understand that ICBM's and SLBM's that have been around for decades are Hypersonic Nukes. They typically travel about 15,000mph.

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Jan 10, 2019 12:58:09   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Hamltnblue wrote:
I wonder if people understand that ICBM's and SLBM's that have been around for decades are Hypersonic Nukes. They typically travel about 15,000mph.
Yep - - we do - - but their trajectory is ballistic and once out of the boost phase, fairly predictable (Until the MIRVs are released). I think we currently have some missile intercept capability for ICBMs.
The current breed of Soviet Hypersonic delivery vehicles can change course much like a cruise missile (possibly even have some evasion strategies), and I believe would fly at a much lower altitude than an ICBM - making interception beyond our current capability.

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Jan 10, 2019 16:29:21   #
dallis Loc: Lompoc, Ca.
 
You're right about the ICBM's but I don't think anybody but us have the entercept capability and ours is a bit sketchy. I wonder how maneuverable their weapons would be at those speeds, pilots flying SR71's talk about turning radious in terms of states covered, an unmanned vehicle could sustain much higher G's, but still at those speeds?

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Jan 10, 2019 16:55:25   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
dallis wrote:
I wonder how maneuverable their weapons would be at those speeds, pilots flying SR71's talk about turning radious in terms of states covered, an unmanned vehicle could sustain much higher G's, but still at those speeds?
All interesting concepts - likely known but classified.
A Jink or even a barrel roll would likely cause an intercept missile to miss.

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Jan 11, 2019 00:23:06   #
dallis Loc: Lompoc, Ca.
 
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