sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

You sadly missed the whole point of this beautiful message

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Well...what was the point?

I guess I did.

I'm not being facetious when I ask...tell me what the point of this message was in your own words. (Are you a Christian? Not asking out of snark...really asking)

If you are...is the bible your ultimate source of authority when it comes to what's true and false about God?

I'm REALLY asking because I want to know how you come up with the idea that this is a beautiful message.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

While I don't necessarily disagree with your post, may I say that as human beings we all tend to like things that make us feel good. When it does absolutely no harm then what is your beef? Some people do feel great about themselves and about life and others in general by spending more time with puppies, wildflowers, spending a few minutes photographing something beautiful, whatever it is that makes that person happy. If this post gives people that feeling then why would you care enough to make a negative comment? Cannot you give others credit for knowing exactly what the post is about but feeling good about it?

Dennis

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

[quote=dennis2146]While I don't necessarily disagree with your post, may I say that as human beings we all tend to like things that make us feel good. [quote]

Well...since you asked..I'll comment.

I agree. We like things that make us feel good. Are you a Christian?
If you are...do you understand what I wrote about the post?



I guess that's where the problem lies...you must not think it's harmful to portray the great I AM as a doddering old man in a robe who has to ask questions of humans....I do.
I think it's harmful to not tell the truth about the central being in Christian worship...the creator and sustainer of all things.

Do you think it's ok to not tell the truth about God? Do you think that He is ok with that?

Do this: Think about the apostle Paul. Think about what he said about God and how he should be worshipped and then imagine you asking him about this video...do you think he'd say "no problem! Just as long as it makes you feel good...go ahead and describe God in any way you like!"

Do you think that would be his answer?




I guess there is a fundamental difference in our perspectives also...your ultimate goal is "what makes you happy" and the bible's goal is "what glorifies God" as the ultimate goal.

If you're a Christian..are you REALLY saying that if something makes someone happy then what's the harm? Have you ever READ your bible?




I care because I would rather tell the truth about God and tell folks the truth about their standing before God before it's too late for them rather than what gives them a good feeling.

I cannot believe you'd even ask that if you consider yourself a Christian. It's hard to fathom that you would even say that.

If you're not a Christian...then my apologies for assuming and I do understand why you'd ask these things and I'm glad for the opportunity to clarify the Christian perspective.

scatman Loc: Waterbury, CT

News flash; the Bible is the inspired word of God, written by humans (and by no means perfect humans).

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Yes I am a Christian. I have also done some ministering in my time to convicted felons, both male and female. Thanks for asking.

People used to be very solemn about their God. Now, not so much. I recall when in the mid 70's I went to a Catholic Church service with my girlfriend of the time. I am a Methodist. I could not believe there was a guitar player singing with a group of three or four other singers. To me with a strict Methodist upbringing where our church had a choir and organist it was somewhat disconcerting. But as my girlfriend explained to me there are many Christians who simply don't go to church lately because of the solemnity involved. The congregation increased with the group playing the guitar. Music was still there to glorify God although it was a different type of music than many parishioners were used to. I believe God was quite used to it though. When I was a kid there was absolutely nobody in the church that wasn't dressed to the nines. Men wore suits and ties. Women wore dresses. Pant suits hadn't been invented yet apparently. Nowadays people go to church dressed in shorts and dirty shirts wearing flip flops. It really made me feel angry to see these people so disrespecting God like this. But now I honestly believe that God isn't offended at all. The people are still in His house and are reveling in His greatness.

So in the big picture, which is more important, people giving up on God's greatness and not being there with Him or lightening up on the solemnity and picturing God as an old man who loves us all? I do realize it is not a simple This OR That answer.

Dennis

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Newsflash: the "inspiration" that you are referring to means that (through men) God (who is sovereign over all things...even the actions of men writing the bible) made sure that they wrote the exact thing that He intended...right down to the last jot and tittle, thus He is the true author of scripture.

Just so you know for next time you bring that up...that's the actual orthodox Christian position on it.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

What does any of that have to do with reducing God to a being who's flawed, has to ask questions to find out what men are thinking and then spews platitudes as an answer?

Sure...the bible talks about modesty in dress and demeanor but just because MEN decided that a suit and tie are required attire doesn't make that position biblical...does it?


Can you honestly not see the difference between not telling the truth about who God is and what the Methodist's decided that a person wears to church?

Are you aware that blasphemy is defined as not representing who God is accurately or addressing Him with irreverence?

Jews won't even write His name....that's how reverent they are with Him...and here you are arguing about God being represented as a doddering old man who asks questions of a human and returns platitudes.

I think my point is being made for me.

scatman Loc: Waterbury, CT

Yes, and the folks who fabricated that "position" were (wait for it...) humans.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Sorry my friend but we do not live in Old Testament times. What you call irreverent and blasphemy is not what I would call the same thing. I believe God does have a sense of humor and the post tries to bring out that humor. If you can't see that or are unwilling to acknowledge anything but the most absolute Old Testament style reverence for the Supreme Being then we will just have to disagree. I suspect I will see you in heaven.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Who are you talking to? I see you are new to UHH. It helps a lot if you click on Quote Reply before answering. Then we all know who you are talking to.

Welcome aboard,

Dennis

Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas

Very good and thought provoking video, thanks for sharing.

scatman Loc: Waterbury, CT

Thanks for the tip (said the rabbi to the baby boy).

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Entirely welcome.

Please submit some photos when you are ready. We love to see photos from new members.

Dennis

ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile

You may believe this but you CANNOT know this. There is no factual basis for your ideas. It's not reality, it's superstition.