hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

I'll step out on a limb here.

Can we agree that Lincoln is more or less the father of the Republican party? He "freed" the s***es?
From wikipedia;

The Republican Party, also referred to as the GOP (abbreviation for Grand Old Party), is one of the world's oldest extant political parties. The party values reflect economic conservatism, classical conservatism (modern day American conservatism) and corporate liberty rights. It is the second oldest existing political party in the United States after its primary rival, the Democratic Party. The party emerged in 1854 to combat the Kansas–Nebraska Act, an act that dissolved the terms of the Missouri Compromise and allowed s***e or free status to be decided in the territories by popular sovereignty. The early Republican Party had almost no presence in the Southern United States, but by 1858 it had enlisted former Whigs and former Free Soil Democrats to form majorities in nearly every Northern state.

With its e******n of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and its success in guiding the Union to victory in the American Civil War and abolishing s***ery, the party came to dominate the national political scene until 1932.

Seems to me that by joining the Republican party you've adopted their stance on s***ery and therefore don't own any. Of course, since the GOP starts in 1854 who knows who had s***es before that? Democrats for sure but if there's no GOP at the time then no Republicans had s***es.

Ergo, logic tells us that since the one of the original primary platforms of the Republican party was the elimination of s***ery (unlike the Democrats), then it stands to follow that Republicans didn't own s***es.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

You put dishonest words in his mouth.

Remember, you don’t believe in t***h!

If “humans lie; next issue” is your mantra, there is no t***h.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Fair reasoning and logic, thank you. Good thinking.

Next answer this: Why is the Republican Party now enslaving minorities and the poor?

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

WTF?

Does t***h require the presence or even existence of humans?

Does not the Earth revolve around the sun whether or not we are here?

You need to work on your logic chief!

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Show me where the "Republican Party" is enslaving minorities and the poor. Be specific. No generalities or platitudes.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Humans lie, as I quoted you doing.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Where are these s***es kept liar?

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

There are some enigmas when it comes to political parties.

For instance, Republicans are often branded as religious and holding to primarily christian views. One especially brought up is their view on our origins. It's fairly safe to say that Democrats are all in on Darwinism.

Now here's the part I think is weird. When it comes to society/economy, Republicans/conservatives seem inclined to go with the "strong survive", whereas the Liberals reject these Darwinistic leanings and demand income redistribution and the notion of "fairness" (work hard you get $$, don't work you still get $$)

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

Always amazes me how arepublicans forget 1964.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

All this ideological rebranding polemic comes from the Alt-right sites, pre-packaged as a distraction.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Just when are you finally going to understand that N**I means National Socialism. It is far,far left. A Brother of C*******m. Both are ultimate government control of the means of production, by definition l*****t. The ultimate rightest condition is chaos-no government at all. Neither ultra left or right are in the public good. Defining N**i as rightist is a subtrifuge used by some to demonize conservatives.

jcboy3

Those may be characteristics of libertarians. They are not the defining characteristics of right wing politics.

If you want small government, then you must want small military.

Rose42

Good logic and reasoning. Thanks. I just wanted Angmo to produce something for a change.

If he knows it he should say it.

jcboy3

Republicans self-brand to being religious and holding Christian views. Ultimately, the politicians are significantly hypocritical on that score.

Democrats split on religion versus non-relition, but are definitely not restricted to Christian.

The part that is weird is that Republicans have bought into Social Darwinism to justify ine******y and exploitation, thereby rejecting Christian values.

Except when they need to get elected; then its 10 Commandments and all the way.

#1 through #4 - reject out of hand

#5 - good advice if your parents aren't despicable

#6 - good for a law

#7 - good advice, but not good for a law

#8, #9 - good for a law

#10 - not even good advice, as long as you don't violate #8. And definitely doubling down on #7

So what's the tally? Three commandments that are good for the law, the rest not even worth discussing.

These are the 3 Commandments: Don't lie, steal, or k**l. Simple rules to live by. Probably should have started the list with them, but then people might have just given up on the rest rather than have to read through them to get to the good stuff.

One final note. Consider the language used. "Shall" for all those God-related commandments, "must" for the ones that matter. What's up with #5? Neither a shall nor must to be found. I think someone wasn't too sure about that one.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Sorry my friend, you confuse ‘t***h’ with ‘fact.’

T***h is the opposite of falsehood, and the sun and moon do not deal in falsehood.

And, yes, T***h does involve the existence of humans—in face it is a particularly human concept.

Besides that, you don’t make your point clear.

If one accepts trump’s 10,000 lies with a shrug of the shoulder and “humans lie,” in other words if you accept lies as inevitable and as legitimate expressions of humanity (as he does and demonstrates) then lies have equal credibility to t***h, and then t***h no longer exists as an end to be sought, or as a counter to lies, or to evaluate events and meaning.

If we accept trump’s lies, even those which conflict with each other, we give up all idea of T***h.

T***h exists only if it is a goal to be sought, fought for, debated, trusted, and valued.

If you believe or act as trump—anything can be true (even contradictory statements)—then t***h is reduced to nothingness.

And, without t***h, there is no rule of law, which leaves only the particular human failing, power, as real.