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Dec 31, 2018 11:17:10   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Devoted Nikonian - thinking of Mirrorless for travel (weight, etc). Bot an Olympus OM-D E10 Mark lll with the 14-42 EX lens. also bot a cheap used 40-150. Plan was - if happy, go to the Olympus OM-D E1 Mark ll, and keep the 10-lll as a backup. Problem --- Strong (bad) blue cast on landscapes where trees meet the sky. Looks like the blue from the sky bleeds into the treeline. Camera or lens causing the problem?? Has anyone out there seen a similar problem? Or anyone have an answer ??

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Dec 31, 2018 11:25:18   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
We haven't seen your problem, only read about it.

Upload a picture that shows what you are talking about.

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Dec 31, 2018 11:30:11   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Are you shooting jpegs? What settings is the camera on?

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Dec 31, 2018 12:51:17   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
JPEGS. Three photos - sun is behind me. all shot at ISO 200, either F8 of F5.6,







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Dec 31, 2018 12:52:54   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Is it all landscape images or just certain lighting situations? My guess is the cheaper kit lenses that’s causing the issues. I don’t use those lenses, so I can’t check any of my images to see if it appears in any of my images, but it doesn’t sound familiar.

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Dec 31, 2018 12:56:40   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
PHmm, they appear somewhat over exposed. What are your skill levels when it comes to post processing? Have you ever tried shooting in Raw? If I were shooting this, I would have under exposed to protect the highlights, and pulled the shadows in post. Or handheld and bracketed the exposures and combined in post. The em1ii handles blown highlights much better than any other olympus body...that was something I immediately noticed when upgrading from the em1.

For example...this was a super bright situation where I had to recover some blown highlights with the em1ii. The original em1 would have likely required multiple shots like I explained above to get to this image.

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Dec 31, 2018 13:15:54   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
PHmm, they appear somewhat over exposed. What are your skill levels when it comes to post processing? Have you ever tried shooting in Raw? If I were shooting this, I would have under exposed to protect the highlights, and pulled the shadows in post. Or handheld and bracketed the exposures and combined in post. The em1ii handles blown highlights much better than any other olympus body...that was something I immediately noticed when upgrading from the em1.

For example...this was a super bright situation where I had to recover some blown highlights with the em1ii. The original em1 would have likely required multiple shots like I explained above to get to this image.
PHmm, they appear somewhat over exposed. What are ... (show quote)


I am thinking along the same lines, focus point on the tree trunk, the sky gets blown out.

To the OP: If you have an editing program like Lightroom that has a DeHaze filter, that and a graduated filter from the top to the blue line would correct this.

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Dec 31, 2018 13:23:34   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
lrm wrote:
JPEGS. Three photos - sun is behind me. all shot at ISO 200, either F8 of F5.6,


I think that your photos are good examples why you wouldn’t want the camera to make decisions for you. I maybe wrong, but looks like lens flare to me. As it was suggested, expose for the highlights and things will be fine. Btw, f8 is not needed with m4/3 unless you are doing something artsy with wide angle.

Here is an example from the same senor. I hope you don’t mind. Click on download


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Dec 31, 2018 14:11:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Were you shooting through a window? What is that thing to right of my red arrow in #1 below? There also appears to be a foggy look to the branch upper left of that, such as you might get from reflections through glass. Or did you just step outside from AC to high humidity? I don't think lens flare occurs if sun is behind you.

Please post this one again with "store original" box checked prior to clicking attach. Also, do you have any that don't have blown-out white sky to compare?

#3 - my shot, different camera. The effect you mentioned does happen, but I can't recall the name or cause. Could others in this thread address the blue specifically? Does it have to do with dynamic range?






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Dec 31, 2018 14:49:45   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Were you shooting through a window? What is that thing to right of my red arrow in #1 below? There also appears to be a foggy look to the branch upper left of that, such as you might get from reflections through glass. Or did you just step outside from AC to high humidity? I don't think lens flare occurs if sun is behind you.

Please post this one again with "store original" box checked prior to clicking attach. Also, do you have any that don't have blown-out white sky to compare?

#3 - my shot, different camera. The effect you mentioned does happen, but I can't recall the name or cause. Could others in this thread address the blue specifically? Does it have to do with dynamic range?
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Linda;
Sharp eye, I (we) did not see that. And it could be a reflection from shooting through the glass, and another reason to use a polarizer when in the sun. Combined with a focus/metering spot that was on the trunk blowing out the sky.

I did the same last night with a gorgeous sunset, had the focus points on the hillside which lightened the sky loosing detail. Once I reshot with the focus points above the horizon line, I got the colors I was looking for.

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Dec 31, 2018 14:59:21   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
lrm wrote:
Devoted Nikonian - thinking of Mirrorless for travel (weight, etc). Bot an Olympus OM-D E10 Mark lll with the 14-42 EX lens. also bot a cheap used 40-150. Plan was - if happy, go to the Olympus OM-D E1 Mark ll, and keep the 10-lll as a backup. Problem --- Strong (bad) blue cast on landscapes where trees meet the sky. Looks like the blue from the sky bleeds into the treeline. Camera or lens causing the problem?? Has anyone out there seen a similar problem? Or anyone have an answer ??
Devoted Nikonian - thinking of Mirrorless for trav... (show quote)


I once had a copy of that lens, and what I got with it looked even worse than this, it had the same glazed bluish look, but it was more blurred than yours. I was using it on an OMD EM1 v1 and EM5 v1. It did the same on both, but none of my other lenses, whether cheap or pro version, have ever done such as that. I had to send it back, I hope you didn't end up buying mine, because it was surely a lemon.

Don't pass judgement on the camera based just on the lens. Lots of folks get excellent images from that camera. I know two well established professionals with galleries and plenty of sales who use the EM10 as their primary camera. Do you have a high quality lens you can try on it? Does it behave the same with both the lenses you have? I have the cheap 40-150 and it is fine, far better than it ought to be for the price.

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Dec 31, 2018 15:04:04   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
OK, the OP posted the original to a new thread ("Not through glass, and not A/C from heat. Been outdoors in woods for hours. I don't know what that spot is or how it got there.").

I've edited a section. The soft glow of the whitest area feels like the sun is coming from that part of the sky. But methinks I'll stop guessing now

Lens issue aside, there are other settings that should be addressed:

Contrast was set to "high."
Sharpness was set to "hard."
Saturation was set to "high."

These are inappropriate for a bright-sky, tricky lighting situation IMO.


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Dec 31, 2018 16:40:28   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
thanks

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Jan 1, 2019 13:48:14   #
rcarol
 
lrm wrote:
Devoted Nikonian - thinking of Mirrorless for travel (weight, etc). Bot an Olympus OM-D E10 Mark lll with the 14-42 EX lens. also bot a cheap used 40-150. Plan was - if happy, go to the Olympus OM-D E1 Mark ll, and keep the 10-lll as a backup. Problem --- Strong (bad) blue cast on landscapes where trees meet the sky. Looks like the blue from the sky bleeds into the treeline. Camera or lens causing the problem?? Has anyone out there seen a similar problem? Or anyone have an answer ??
Devoted Nikonian - thinking of Mirrorless for trav... (show quote)


I have two copies of the OM-D E-M10 MKI and the two lenses you reference in your post and have not seen the issues that you describe. In fact, I've been very happy with the kit lenses. However, having said that, it appears to me that you are overexposing your images and that may be causing the highlights to blow out while producing a bluish cast.

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Jan 1, 2019 14:34:05   #
lrm Loc: Sarasota, FL
 
Oddly, when I under expose similar scenes I still get the same thing. I have changed all settings a number of times,
I have shot in raw,processed to no avail.. Conclusion— gear going back. Thanks for your comments.

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