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Dec 30, 2018 10:46:52   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
ole sarg wrote:
He is a russian troll


Is that the newest Liberal insult after r****t and misogynist? Are we all going to be Russian trolls now even though Obama himself said there was no Russian interference. If there was he sure as hell did nothing to stop it. I wonder if he isn't the very first Russian troll right after Hillary with her dumb ass Reset Button.

Is that all you on the Left have anymore is insults and name calling in an attempt to make some kind of point? It would appear so.

Dennis

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Dec 30, 2018 10:50:15   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Anytime I hear or read, "Nuff said", it is because the speaker or writer is afraid of any other opinions than their opinion. Your opinion is about as shallow as your thought process. Who the hell are you to tell any of us that you are, "a knowledgeable and experienced source, someone who knows more than I do, has seen more than I have, has experienced what I haven’t, or..."? You are simply a person on an Internet forum who honestly has no more experience than many others of us do. You may write better prose or actually post better copied prose as you do often. But you are just agreeing with someone else who may or may not have better knowledge or more accurately, opinions than the rest of us who disagree with you.

I tend to look at your supposed choices, Obama, Hillary and so forth and wonder about your moral compass and ethics. You tend to support Obama, Hillary, Bill Clinton, and all the rest but in taking a look at all of them and their compatriots, I notice a common thread of lying to the people of America, c***ting during the e******n, passing classified documents, deleting emails, destroying phones, putting a government server in a private residence and so on. These are the people that you support. Not me.

Yes I know Trump has told untold billions of lies to the American public, most of them because he wants to showboat and emphasize his greatness. He is a performer and he is performing. But he has not told lies to the extent that the above mentioned Liberal Democrats have some of which protect the Muslims while putting forth a feeling of safety from Muslims that is a lie.

Your so called choices are ridiculous to many of us and I hope you will be happy with them in the future.

Dennis
Anytime I hear or read, "Nuff said", it ... (show quote)


let us hope his misguided choices disappear..Twardlo lies as well as they do

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Dec 30, 2018 11:06:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
wilpharm wrote:
let us hope his misguided choices disappear..Twardlo lies as well as they do


You are absolutely correct. I have come to realize that Liberals use the old sayings of, The ends justify the means, and, Win at any cost. Hillary and Bill, Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Comey, Kerry and others have shown that to be true. It is simply factual to say that Democrats lie yet Twardlow and his Liberal family approve of such lying.

Dennis

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Dec 30, 2018 11:12:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You are absolutely correct. I have come to realize that Liberals use the old sayings of, The ends justify the means, and, Win at any cost. Hillary and Bill, Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Comey, Kerry and others have shown that to be true. It is simply factual to say that Democrats lie yet Twardlow and his Liberal family approve of such lying.

Dennis


all the while implying that they are such saints and intellectuals...twardlo is pretty smooth with words..not so much with reasoning though

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Dec 30, 2018 11:14:03   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Twardlow wrote:
Opinion

The Inevitability of Impeachment

Even Republicans may be deciding that the president has become too great a burden to their party or too great a danger to the country.

By Elizabeth Drew

Ms. Drew is a journalist based in Washington who covered Watergate.

An impeachment process against President Trump now seems inescapable. Unless the president resigns, the pressure by the public on the Democratic leaders to begin an impeachment process next year will only increase. Too many people think in terms of stasis: How things are is how they will remain. They don’t take into account that opinion moves with events.

Whether or not there’s already enough evidence to impeach Mr. Trump — I think there is — we will learn what the special counsel, Robert Mueller, has found, even if his investigation is cut short. A significant number of Republican candidates didn’t want to run with Mr. Trump in the midterms, and the results of those e******ns didn’t exactly strengthen his standing within his party. His political status, weak for some time, is now hurtling downhill.

The midterms were followed by new revelations in criminal investigations of once-close advisers as well as new scandals involving Mr. Trump himself. The odor of personal corruption on the president’s part — perhaps affecting his foreign policy — grew stronger. Then the events of the past several days — the president’s precipitous decision to pull American troops out of Syria, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis’s abrupt resignation, the swoon in the stock market, the pointless shutdown of parts of the government — instilled a new sense of alarm among many Republicans.

The word “impeachment” has been thrown around with abandon. The frivolous impeachment of President Bill Clinton helped to define it as a form of political revenge. But it is far more important and serious than that: It has a critical role in the functioning of our democracy.

Impeachment was the founders’ method of holding a president accountable between e******ns. Determined to avoid setting up a king in all but name, they put the decision about whether a president should be allowed to continue to serve in the hands of the representatives of the people who elected him.

The founders understood that overturning the results of a p**********l e******n must be approached with care and that they needed to prevent the use of that power as a partisan exercise or by a faction. So they wrote into the Constitution provisions to make it extremely difficult for Congress to remove a president from office, including that after an impeachment v**e in the House, the Senate would hold a trial, with a two-thirds v**e needed for conviction.

Lost in all the discussion about possible lawbreaking by Mr. Trump is the fact that impeachment wasn’t intended only for crimes. For example, in 1974 the House Judiciary Committee charged Richard Nixon with, among other things, abusing power by using the I.R.S. against his political enemies. The committee also held the president accountable for misdeeds by his aides and for failing to honor the oath of office’s pledge that a president must “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”

The current p**********l crisis seems to have only two possible outcomes. If Mr. Trump sees criminal charges coming at him and members of his family, he may feel trapped. This would leave him the choice of resigning or trying to fight congressional removal. But the latter is highly risky.

I don’t share the conventional view that if Mr. Trump is impeached by the House, the Republican-dominated Senate would never muster the necessary 67 v**es to convict him. Stasis would decree that would be the case, but the current situation, already shifting, will have been left far behind by the time the senators face that question. Republicans who were once Mr. Trump’s firm allies have already openly criticized some of his recent actions, including his support of Saudi Arabia despite the murder of Jamal Khashoggi and his decision on Syria. They also openly deplored Mr. Mattis’s departure.

It always seemed to me that Mr. Trump’s turbulent presidency was unsustainable and that key Republicans would eventually decide that he had become too great a burden to the party or too great a danger to the country. That time may have arrived. In the end the Republicans will opt for their own political survival. Almost from the outset some Senate Republicans have speculated on how long his presidency would last. Some surely noticed that his base didn’t prevail in the midterms.

But it may well not come to a v**e in the Senate. Facing an assortment of unpalatable possibilities, including being indicted after he leaves office, Mr. Trump will be looking for a way out. It’s to be recalled that Mr. Nixon resigned without having been impeached or convicted. The House was clearly going to approve articles of impeachment against him, and he’d been warned by senior Republicans that his support in the Senate had collapsed. Mr. Trump could well exhibit a similar instinct for self-preservation. But like Mr. Nixon, Mr. Trump will want future legal protection.

Mr. Nixon was pardoned by President Gerald Ford, and despite suspicions, no evidence has ever surfaced that the fix was in. While Mr. Trump’s case is more complex than Mr. Nixon’s, the evident dangers of keeping an out-of-control president in office might well impel politicians in both parties, not without controversy, to want to make a deal to get him out of there.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/27/opinion/trump-impeachment-resign-drew.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
Opinion br br b The Inevitability of Impeachment... (show quote)


It puts me at ease that the author doesn’t know if there is enough evidence to impeach.

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Dec 30, 2018 11:18:31   #
Rose42
 
ole sarg wrote:
He is a russian troll


I find replies that that quite humorous. As if the Russians would have someone waste time on such a forum with few users such as this rather than much bigger political forums.

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Dec 30, 2018 11:22:41   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
I find replies that that quite humorous. As if the Russians would have someone waste time on such a forum with few users such as this rather than much bigger political forums.


The Russians have infiltrated the attic....

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Dec 30, 2018 11:25:21   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
The Russians have infiltrated the attic....


ole sarge would like to be an informant but he is not smart enough...maybe he could be a Venezuelan operative??

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Dec 30, 2018 12:28:09   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
wilpharm wrote:
ole sarge would like to be an informant but he is not smart enough...maybe he could be a Venezuelan operative??


Have you noticed that they don’t show individualism thru an avatar.
Dirty just might be an American.

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Dec 30, 2018 12:32:09   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
Have you noticed that they don’t show individualism thru an avatar.
Dirty just might be an American.


debatable..now he is on a cowboy kick.sez he gonna start breaking wild broncs..that boy got issues...thinks everyone is mad at him & he is living in their heads..
sad little dude, that dirt.

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Dec 30, 2018 12:37:22   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
wilpharm wrote:
debatable..now he is on a cowboy kick.sez he gonna start breaking wild broncs..that boy got issues...thinks everyone is mad at him & he is living in their heads..
sad little dude, that dirt.


Dirty has a condo between his ears to accommodate all of us.
His cage is rattled.

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Dec 30, 2018 12:55:14   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
Dirty has a condo between his ears to accommodate all of us.
His cage is rattled.


would truly rather be snakebit than live in that vacuum

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Dec 30, 2018 13:17:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
I find replies that that quite humorous. As if the Russians would have someone waste time on such a forum with few users such as this rather than much bigger political forums.


Rose that is just too much common sense for the Liberal masses. Remember they are more interested in keeping up a continuous stream of anti Trump dialogue than acknowledge anything positive he has done so far. Better they attack Melania, wrongly, for her choice of footwear than to accept her as an intelligent woman who is successful on her own terms. For Liberals it is all about projecting failure on Trump’s part rather than acknowledge his successes.

Dennis

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Dec 30, 2018 13:27:55   #
EyeSawYou
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Is that the newest Liberal insult after r****t and misogynist? Are we all going to be Russian trolls now even though Obama himself said there was no Russian interference. If there was he sure as hell did nothing to stop it. I wonder if he isn't the very first Russian troll right after Hillary with her dumb ass Reset Button.

Is that all you on the Left have anymore is insults and name calling in an attempt to make some kind of point? It would appear so.

Dennis




Progressives on here must be paid Russian trolls, notice that they seem to publically reveal more "insightful" information about Muellers probe than Mueller himself? lol

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Dec 30, 2018 13:49:17   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Progressives on here must be paid Russian trolls, notice that they seem to publically reveal more "insightful" information about Muellers probe than Mueller himself? lol


I wonder why Mueller has not contacted twardlo??

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