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Dec 23, 2018 09:18:52   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Kozan wrote:
The short answer is NO. The Sony brand may have a better reputation. That is, the public thinks more highly of Sony products versus Panasonic products. It doesn't matter if it is justified, or not.

I work for a company that actually owns 5 companies. We make the same identical products between two of the companies. The only difference is the faceplates on the equipment. One brand sells for more money than the other. It's a matter of perceived value-- nothing more. Even parts are sold at different prices.

I personally would not hesitate to buy the cheaper product if the specs are similar, and the product lasts as long.

Kozan
The short answer is NO. The Sony brand may have a... (show quote)


It has everything to do with reputation and marketing principles. For example, in some lean years 20 years ago, I made extra money for Christmas shopping by working for a company that packaged some well known cleaning and other household items put out by Proctor and Gamble. When those orders were fulfilled, the line simply changed containers to put the product in, reflecting either a generic name or grocery store name both which would cost less than half in those stores over the full price of the P&G product. Same product, different container, but the point is that P&G has been around for a very long time and they also heavily advertise its products. Sony has its reputation as well as being known for quality, both which contribute to its advertising costs. They use the same marketing principles and philosophy as that of thousands of other companies. And for those cameras we all love and eagerly wait for that brown truck to bring us that camera we crave, you honestly would NOT want to know how much of the cost you paid goes for reputation and advertising costs! All that to say, the Panasonic at a lesser price will give you just as good of results as the Sony.

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Dec 23, 2018 09:47:48   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have noticed that Sony cameras are much more expensive than what appears to be Panasonic near equivalents. For example, I purchased the Panasonic DMC-ZS100 for $497.99 while the similar appearing Sony DSC-RX100 VI is $1,198.

While the sale prices exaggerate the differences slightly, is there a good reason to pay so much more?


For me, at 73 years old and a little shake, I sold all my Canon gear and took the proceeds and purchased a Sony RX10 IV. I was tired of carrying all that gear. I paid $1,700 for the RX10. That is a lot when you are on social security. My reasoning was that the RX10 IV had a 1-inch sensor, a 2.8 lens and a 600mm reach. Most of my photography is shooting stage plays and hockey games. Both these efforts require excellent low light ability. Sony has these attributes and I couldn't be happier. I live on the Chesapeake Bay and I sometimes need a little more reach. I purchased a used CyberShot DSC-HX400V. I guess in the final analysis, its all in what you use the equipment for.
RX10

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Dec 23, 2018 10:18:08   #
gwilliams6
 
zug55 wrote:
Perhaps it comes down to better quality, particularly quality of the lens?

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4579350611/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx100-m6-vs-panasonic-lumix-dc-zs200-tz200-vs-dmc-zs100-tz100-best-for-travel

"Our impressions so far are that it also has the best lens, the best autofocus and video that's both cleaner and more detailed. There are also a couple of things the RX100 does that the Panasonics can't. Its frankly ridiculous continuous shooting performance may be a differentiator for some photographers, and its Eye AF performance alone would make a huge difference for anyone taking portraits."
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Dec 23, 2018 10:28:17   #
Opusx300
 
Yes, a lot of it is due to marketing and perception BUT there is a portion of it that could be due to better features and photos.

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Dec 23, 2018 10:35:56   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
PHRubin wrote:
I have noticed that Sony cameras are much more expensive than what appears to be Panasonic near equivalents. For example, I purchased the Panasonic DMC-ZS100 for $497.99 while the similar appearing Sony DSC-RX100 VI is $1,198.

While the sale prices exaggerate the differences slightly, is there a good reason to pay so much more?
Great question. And you came up with a perfect example... In most cases, a more expensive camera will show you why it is more expensive in the specs. But in this case, there is no reason why the Sony should cost twice as much as the Panasonic.

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Dec 23, 2018 10:36:47   #
Satman Loc: Indy
 
I have noticed for years that Sony TVs are more expensive than Panasonic TVs,

People just pay more, have for years,

The price is not always the final cost, even used Pano products are cheaper, and in less demand.

They both take nice pictures,

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Dec 23, 2018 13:17:12   #
Naptown Gaijin
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Follow the link to see Japanese Camera Manufacturer's market shares. See that small grey wedge? That is everybody else after Canon, Nikon and Sony

https://photorumors.com/2018/08/01/2018-canon-nikon-and-sony-market-share-latest-nikkei-bcn-and-cipa-reports/

Panasonic costs less because they need to be more competitive for their dwindling slice of the market.

"Nikkei published their 2018 interchangeable lens camera worldwide market share report:

Canon: 49.1%
Nikon: 24.9%
Sony: 13.3%

All other companies (Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic, Ricoh) combined have less than a 13% market share (the top 3 camera manufacturers gained 6.2% in 2018 to a total of 87.3%). The compact (fixed lens) digital camera market share shows similar numbers."
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Small market share does not equate to quality.... ask any Leica owner.

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Dec 23, 2018 14:12:03   #
User ID
 
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Nobody has yet mentioned that the
OP price comparison is bogus. Since
the Panasonic is an earlier model and
of lower "aspiration" in the first place,
it would make sense to compare it to
the much more affordable pricing of
the Mk II and Mk III versions of the
RX100 series. If you do that, it's no
longer a crazily lopsided comparison,
and the OP question just evaporates.

Funny no one pointed that out, but all
just ramble on showing their "industry
marketing savvy" about market share,
branding, yadayadyadah :-(


.

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Dec 23, 2018 14:28:02   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
User ID wrote:
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Nobody has yet mentioned that the
OP price comparison is bogus. Since
the Panasonic is an earlier model and
of lower "aspiration" in the first place,
it would make sense to compare it to
the much more affordable pricing of
the Mk II and Mk III versions of the
RX100 series. If you do that, it's no
longer a crazily lopsided comparison,
and the OP question just evaporates.

Funny no one pointed that out, but all
just ramble on showing their "industry
marketing savvy" about market share,
branding, yadayadyadah :-(


.
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While the lens on the RX10III has a better aperture spec, its zoom range is pitiful by the standards of the other models.

I'm getting the impression it is all hype and reputation, not better quality

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Dec 23, 2018 14:59:45   #
BebuLamar
 
It's not Sony. It's the RX series. Sony priced their RX series price quite high (I believe because they are also very good). Others Sony prices aren't high. I think Sony has the lowest priced full frame camera the A7.

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Dec 23, 2018 15:21:00   #
User ID
 
PHRubin wrote:

While the lens on the RX10III has a better
aperture spec, its zoom range is pitiful by
the standards of the other models. .......



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Dec 23, 2018 15:41:48   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
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That raised the level.

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Dec 23, 2018 17:08:34   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Wingpilot wrote:
I sometimes have to wonder if "better" might actually be something perceived by any given user, rather than a reflection on the overall quality of say, a camera. So is the Sony really that much better than the Panasonic, or do we think it's better because we're told that it is. Or perhaps the amount of "better" may be so slight that the average user may not be able to really tell the difference. But yeah, if you wanna dance, you've got to pay the band, as they say.


I have had both Sony and Panasonic cameras. I still have the Panasonic...

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Dec 23, 2018 18:05:34   #
User ID
 
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IDguy wrote:

I have had both Sony and Panasonic cameras.
I still have the Panasonic...

Similarly, but I've still kept the Sonys on hand.
Yet, I find I keep reaching for the Panasonics.
Nothing about quality differences, mainly it's
about size, mebbe secondarily about features.

The Sonys stick around to use various legacy
lenses that would look huge and be redundant
on the Panasonics. Example: Why put a 50mm
f/1.8 [legacy FF lens] on a Panasonic, instead
of the tiny, and inexpensive, 45mm f/1.8 from
Olympus ? Just ONE example :-)

OTOH, my old Maxxum 16/2.8 fisheye will work
only on a Sony, and there's no m4/3 equivalent
available. Again, just ONE example. So m4/3 is
getting more use, but Sonys are still needed.

.

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Dec 23, 2018 18:53:01   #
nsilberma Loc: San Jose, Calif.
 
First I would check if you compare apples to apples. I can't say if the price is justified, but from photo sites reviews and friends who have the RX100VI there is no compare to it. It looks to me that the RX100VI is kind of a"mini A9" So the ultimate answer is with you to decide based on your needs and performance trade-offs you are willing to make for $$$. Recently I was on a wildlife photography tour and surprisingly several highly professional photographers had the RX100VI as their second camera (???). Hope this helps. Undoubtedly Panasonic and others make good pocket size cameras that many photographers love.

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