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Dec 22, 2018 18:26:02   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The only fool is you!

The Mueller Indictments, guilty pleas, and conviction are NOT any kind of conspiracy theory.

It's time for you to face the reality that trump is going down in flames and he's taking Pence and his 3 oldest kids down with him.

I'm going to enjoy watching you sputter but, but, but, ... when it happens!



Here ya go StudderBug..

Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge. LOL

https://nypost.com/2017/04/10/turns-out-obama-was-the-real-russian-stooge/


The circumstantial evidence is mounting that the Kremlin succeeded in infiltrating the US government at the highest levels.

How else to explain a newly elected president looking the other way after an act of Russian aggression? Agreeing to a farcically one-sided nuclear deal? Mercilessly mocking the idea that Russia represents our foremost geo-political foe?

Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to f****l f**ls?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama.

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program. During the red-line fiasco, he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack.

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on f****l f**ls — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.

Put all of this together, and it’s impossible to conclude anything other than that Obama was a Russian stooge — and not out of any nefarious dealings, but out of his own naïveté and weakness.

Obama didn’t expect any rewards when he asked then-Russian President Dimitri Medvedev during a hot mic moment at an international meeting to relay to Vladimir Putin his ability to be more “flexible” after the 2012 e******n; he was, to put it in terms of the current Russian e******n controversy, “colluding” with the Russians in the belief it was a good strategy. His “kompromat” was his own foolishness.


The cost of Obama’s orientation toward Russia became clearer over the last two weeks. When he pulled up short from enforcing his red line, an agreement with the Russians to remove Bashar al-Assad’s chemical weapons became the fig leaf to cover his retreat.
This deal was obviously deficient, but Obama officials used clever language to give the impression that it had removed all chemical weapons from Syria. Never mind that Assad still used chlorine gas to attack his population — exploiting a grievous loophole — and that evidence piled up that Assad was c***ting more broadly.

The Russians eagerly covered for Assad because he’s their client. What was the Obama administration’s excuse? It effectively made itself a liar for the Russians. At the same time Moscow bolstered the Assad regime, we said had to go, smashed the moderate opposition we were trying to create, and sent a destabilizing refugee flow into Europe. This was a moral and strategic disaster.

To be sure, Donald Trump’s statements about Russia over the last year-and-a-half have often been stupid and shameful. But there was always a good chance that Russia’s blatant hostility to our values and interests would make any attempted Trump detente unsustainable. With his secretary of state and UN ambassador hitting Russia hard over the Assad gas attack and Trump’s strike challenging Russia’s position, the administration looks to be adopting a hard-headed attitude without bothering with a doomed re-set first.

Even if Obama eventually got tougher on Russia — imposing sanctions after the Ukraine invasion and sending contingents of US troops to countries near Russia — he never entirely shed his reflex toward accommodation.

No matter what conspiracy theorists might say, there’s nothing to suggest anything untoward about Obama’s relationship with Russia. But based on the record alone, you might have suspicions.

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Dec 22, 2018 18:27:09   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Who knows, depends on how my health holds up. :)


Hal will be the perfect checkers match for you at the home.

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Dec 22, 2018 19:14:53   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
thom w wrote:
Washed and dried on too high of heat.

That's right, you have been!

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Dec 22, 2018 19:19:16   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Here ya go StudderBug..

Turns out Obama was the real Russian stooge. LOL

https://nypost.com/2017/04/10/turns-out-obama-was-the-real-russian-stooge/


The circumstantial evidence is mounting that the Kremlin succeeded in infiltrating the US government at the highest levels.

How else to explain a newly elected president looking the other way after an act of Russian aggression? Agreeing to a farcically one-sided nuclear deal? Mercilessly mocking the idea that Russia represents our foremost geo-political foe?

Accommodating the illicit nuclear ambitions of a Russian ally? Welcoming a Russian foothold in the Middle East? Refusing to provide arms to a sovereign country invaded by Russia? Diminishing our defenses and pursuing a Moscow-friendly policy of hostility to f****l f**ls?

All of these items, of course, refer to things said or done by President Barack Obama.

To take them in order: He re-set with Russia shortly after its clash with Georgia in 2008. He concluded the New START agreement with Moscow that reduced our nuclear forces but not theirs. When candidate Mitt Romney warned about Russia in the 2012 campaign, Obama rejected him as a Cold War relic.

The president then went on to forge an agreement with Russia’s ally Iran to allow it to preserve its nuclear program. During the red-line fiasco, he eagerly grasped a lifeline from Russia at the price of accepting its intervention in Syria. He never budged on giving Ukraine “lethal” weapons to defend itself from Russian attack.

Finally, Obama cut US defense spending and cracked down on f****l f**ls — a policy that Russia welcomes, since its economy is dependent on high oil prices.

Put all of this together, and it’s impossible to conclude anything other than that Obama was a Russian stooge — and not out of any nefarious dealings, but out of his own naïveté and weakness.

Obama didn’t expect any rewards when he asked then-Russian President Dimitri Medvedev during a hot mic moment at an international meeting to relay to Vladimir Putin his ability to be more “flexible” after the 2012 e******n; he was, to put it in terms of the current Russian e******n controversy, “colluding” with the Russians in the belief it was a good strategy. His “kompromat” was his own foolishness.


The cost of Obama’s orientation toward Russia became clearer over the last two weeks. When he pulled up short from enforcing his red line, an agreement with the Russians to remove Bashar al-Assad’s chemical weapons became the fig leaf to cover his retreat.
This deal was obviously deficient, but Obama officials used clever language to give the impression that it had removed all chemical weapons from Syria. Never mind that Assad still used chlorine gas to attack his population — exploiting a grievous loophole — and that evidence piled up that Assad was c***ting more broadly.

The Russians eagerly covered for Assad because he’s their client. What was the Obama administration’s excuse? It effectively made itself a liar for the Russians. At the same time Moscow bolstered the Assad regime, we said had to go, smashed the moderate opposition we were trying to create, and sent a destabilizing refugee flow into Europe. This was a moral and strategic disaster.

To be sure, Donald Trump’s statements about Russia over the last year-and-a-half have often been stupid and shameful. But there was always a good chance that Russia’s blatant hostility to our values and interests would make any attempted Trump detente unsustainable. With his secretary of state and UN ambassador hitting Russia hard over the Assad gas attack and Trump’s strike challenging Russia’s position, the administration looks to be adopting a hard-headed attitude without bothering with a doomed re-set first.

Even if Obama eventually got tougher on Russia — imposing sanctions after the Ukraine invasion and sending contingents of US troops to countries near Russia — he never entirely shed his reflex toward accommodation.

No matter what conspiracy theorists might say, there’s nothing to suggest anything untoward about Obama’s relationship with Russia. But based on the record alone, you might have suspicions.
Here ya go StudderBug.. br br Turns out Obama ... (show quote)

trump's Russian ties go back decades with Russian Loans after US bank refused to loan to him because he so badly mismanaged his businesses, and Russuan money laundering!

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Dec 22, 2018 20:11:11   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
You've been totally brainwashed by your idol!

You fail to acknowledge the fact that trump's a crook and he's been under Putin's control for decades!


Thanks for posting evidence to support your wild claim. Comrade.

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Dec 22, 2018 20:11:47   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Zzzz....
dirtpusher wrote:
Watching the world events. He got his gold leash in Helsinki

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Dec 22, 2018 20:13:23   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
dirtpusher wrote:
https://youtu.be/XnOld55z_jw one funnier


You think you can tame and control a modern woman?

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Dec 22, 2018 20:50:54   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Who knows, depends on how my health holds up. :)


If that means you’ve been sick rather than suspended, I don’t wish to make lite of that. Irritating as I find you I would never wish you bad health. Best wishes.

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Dec 22, 2018 20:58:09   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
That's right, you have been!


That’s at least the second time, probably the third, that you’ve attacked me in the last week for reasons that are a mystery to me. What gives? If someone ran over your dog, I’m really sorry, but I’ve been mostly in bed for the last month, so it wasn’t me.

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Dec 22, 2018 21:21:01   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
yhtomit wrote:
Thanks for posting evidence to support your wild claim. Comrade.

Remember that trump filed for bankruptcy 6 times to get debt relief, and the last time he hung a US bank with his debt to the point that they would have failed if they didn't agree to trumps demands.

His own sons admitted that the only place that they could get loans was from Russia after that.

What rock have you been living under that you don't know that fact?

You really need to do more research on trump and his business practices.

They're case studies of what not to do with a business in both business law classes and business management classes!

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Dec 22, 2018 22:30:26   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
trump's Russian ties go back decades with Russian Loans after US bank refused to loan to him because he so badly mismanaged his businesses, and Russuan money laundering!


LOL you go from one BS f**e news story to another lol. U.S. banks did not refuse to lend Trump money lol, that's f**e news you fool. You continue to be a purveyor of BS. LOL


"The idea that banks won’t lend to Trump because of his bankruptcy history is the equivalent of f**e news: MarketWatch analysis"


www.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Fdonald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22&psig=AOvVaw3r1ZxTJanDAgEBw4Co_IFI&ust=1545621902034607&cshid=1545535500841" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi29te0gLXfAhUGLFAKHduDCGEQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Fdonald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22&psig=AOvVaw3r1ZxTJanDAgEBw4Co_IFI&ust=1545621902034607&cshid=1545535500841

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Dec 22, 2018 22:31:54   #
EyeSawYou
 
thom w wrote:
If that means you’ve been sick rather than suspended, I don’t wish to make lite of that. Irritating as I find you I would never wish you bad health. Best wishes.


I was not suspended, just have not been feeling well as of late. :)

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Dec 22, 2018 22:50:47   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL you go from one BS f**e news story to another lol. U.S. banks did not refuse to lend Trump money lol, that's f**e news you fool. You continue to be a purveyor of BS. LOL


"The idea that banks won’t lend to Trump because of his bankruptcy history is the equivalent of f**e news: MarketWatch analysis"


www.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Fdonald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22&psig=AOvVaw3r1ZxTJanDAgEBw4Co_IFI&ust=1545621902034607&cshid=1545535500841" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi29te0gLXfAhUGLFAKHduDCGEQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketwatch.com%2Fstory%2Fdonald-trump-has-had-no-trouble-getting-big-loans-at-competitive-rates-2017-06-22&psig=AOvVaw3r1ZxTJanDAgEBw4Co_IFI&ust=1545621902034607&cshid=1545535500841
LOL you go from one BS f**e news story to another ... (show quote)

Then tell me in your own words WHY did trump go have to go to Russia for his business loans?

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Dec 22, 2018 23:27:41   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Then tell me in your own words WHY did trump go have to go to Russia for his business loans?



"The idea that banks won’t lend to Trump because of his bankruptcy history is the equivalent of f**e news: MarketWatch analysis"

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Dec 22, 2018 23:35:58   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Remember that trump filed for bankruptcy 6 times to get debt relief, and the last time he hung a US bank with his debt to the point that they would have failed if they didn't agree to trumps demands.

His own sons admitted that the only place that they could get loans was from Russia after that.

What rock have you been living under that you don't know that fact?

You really need to do more research on trump and his business practices.

They're case studies of what not to do with a business in both business law classes and business management classes!
Remember that trump filed for bankruptcy 6 times t... (show quote)



So what? They are an international business.
So 6 out of how many businesses were not successful for the Trump Empire?

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