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Dec 29, 2018 03:34:53   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Was your reasoning to join this forum to switch people to 8x10? Lol!!

Your posts are sounding more and more pathetic. It is 2018 AD, wake up, no one is going to go backwards. Lol! What a comedian.


Hate speech.

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Dec 29, 2018 03:38:00   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
It is only Bipod who is into 8x10. And according to him, anything less is incapable of producing sharp results. Nobody else cares.

Maybe you can talk some sense into him via PM.

Apparently tdekany has nothing better to think about than me.
Should I be flattered?

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Dec 29, 2018 03:43:09   #
Bipod
 
mudhen wrote:
I generally discard fuzzy photos. The point is to take a sharp photo and make it sharper. Off course if
your blind it doesn't matter.

Here is one of my fuzzy photos that I sort of like.


I like it too! I sure wouldn't discard it.
It has a really nice soft look. (If the rocks were sharp, it
would detract from the water motion blur, IMHO.)

I really think that's a good photo, mudhen. So far as I can
tell on this monitor, it has good contrast. It would make
a good print.

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Dec 29, 2018 05:38:56   #
Shutterbug57
 
ken_stern wrote:
I'm sad to admit this but to remain honest with myself ---
Digital Photography has not made me a better photographer ---
However using a good Camera with above average Lenses then shooting in Raw and then employing a pretty good Post-processing Software on a real nice Computer has allowed me to generate much better looking photographs!


BINGO!!! IMHO, shooting film, especially with fully manual cameras, makes me a better photographer, because I have to really think about all aspects of the shot, including how I want to develop and print it, before I push the shutter release. Shooting digital, especially my Fuji X-T2 (or any MILC with EVF), I can get great images quickly and with far less thought (and work) as the WYSIWYG EVF has a histogram in it, so much of the manual process is just done for you. Sure, you still get to make the DOF/shutter speed decisions if you want, but you can also be lazy and still get great shots. Want great Wi-Fi-shareable shots, pick a film profile you like for the shot and, wala, it’s on your phone ready to share. Try that with film.

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Dec 29, 2018 05:46:46   #
Shutterbug57
 
joer wrote:
Those that are satisfied with images SOOC aim too low.


So, when Nat Geo required submissions to be chromes, they were shooting to low? They had some dang good pics in the rag.

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Dec 29, 2018 06:48:57   #
Bipod
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
So, when Nat Geo required submissions to be chromes, they were shooting to low? They had some dang good pics in the rag.

Was that before or after National Geographic was purchased by Rupert Murdoch's Fox media?

Of course, I don;t mean to imply that Rupert Murdoch isn't a scientist, a geographer or an explorer.
He's better than all three: he's an owner.

I heard that all animals pictured must now eat red meat.

Currently, Nat. Geo. does not accept any unsolicited photographs for publication.
http://help.nationalgeographic.com/customer/portal/articles/1450139-can-i-submit-a-photograph-for-publication-in-national-geographic-magazine-or-on-your-website-

If you've been comissioned as a freelancer,, then presumably you know what kinds of subjects and submissions are acceptable. Pray tell?

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Dec 29, 2018 07:37:17   #
Bipod
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
BINGO!!! IMHO, shooting film, especially with fully manual cameras, makes me a better photographer, because I have to really think about all aspects of the shot, including how I want to develop and print it, before I push the shutter release. Shooting digital, especially my Fuji X-T2 (or any MILC with EVF), I can get great images quickly and with far less thought (and work) as the WYSIWYG EVF has a histogram in it, so much of the manual process is just done for you. Sure, you still get to make the DOF/shutter speed decisions if you want, but you can also be lazy and still get great shots. Want great Wi-Fi-shareable shots, pick a film profile you like for the shot and, wala, it’s on your phone ready to share. Try that with film.
BINGO!!! IMHO, shooting film, especially with ful... (show quote)


Yeah, like Ansel Adams, Paul Strand, and Edward Weston were reallly concerned about "having a shot on your phone and ready to share"
(with all your little Facebook followers).

You can mix KoolAid instant beverage and have it ready-to-drink at any time. Oh boy! That's soooo high-tech! And sooo convenient!

Get a life. If you were any lazier, you'd need an iron lung.

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Dec 29, 2018 09:22:55   #
Shutterbug57
 
Bipod wrote:
Yeah, like Ansel Adams, Paul Strand, and Edward Weston were reallly concerned about "having a shot on your phone and ready to share"
(with all your little Facebook followers).

You can mix KoolAid instant beverage and have it ready-to-drink at any time. Oh boy! That's soooo high-tech! And sooo convenient!

Get a life. If you were any lazier, you'd need an iron lung.


Dude, you are easy to wind up.

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Dec 29, 2018 09:24:49   #
Shutterbug57
 
Bipod wrote:
Was that before or after National Geographic was purchased by Rupert Murdoch's Fox media?

Of course, I don;t mean to imply that Rupert Murdoch isn't a scientist, a geographer or an explorer.
He's better than all three: he's an owner.

I heard that all animals pictured must now eat red meat.

Currently, Nat. Geo. does not accept any unsolicited photographs for publication.
http://help.nationalgeographic.com/customer/portal/articles/1450139-can-i-submit-a-photograph-for-publication-in-national-geographic-magazine-or-on-your-website-

If you've been comissioned as a freelancer,, then presumably you know what kinds of subjects and submissions are acceptable. Pray tell?
Was that before or after i National Geographic /i... (show quote)


I never said I shot for Nat Geo. I listened to a podcast with a fellow who shot for them for a long time and he mentioned that back in the film days, he had to shoot & submit chromes.

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Dec 29, 2018 10:45:15   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
I never said I shot for Nat Geo. I listened to a podcast with a fellow who shot for them for a long time and he mentioned that back in the film days, he had to shoot & submit chromes.


Nat Geo, back in the day, certainly did their own processing, including cropping and color adjustments before any photo made it into print. At least I don’t remember getting any 2x2 slides inserted into my issues. It’s physically impossible to reproduce the range of a transparency in ink on a page.

Andy

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Dec 29, 2018 11:45:39   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
What utter piffle. I never said a Canon FF can't take sharp photos.
What's you're problem, tdekany?

Obviously--as everybody except you knows--it's a matter of ENLARGMENT:
how big one plays to display the image file.

There is only so much information in any image capture. And the larger
the format, the more information can be captured.

Of course, in any given shot, resolution is only as good as the weakest link in the chain:
subject detail. lighting, focus, motion shake, lens aberration, aperture distortion, sensor
microlenses, sensor geometry, sensor photocells, de-mosaicing algorithm, post-sprocessing,
image compreession---did I forget anything? Probably. Digital photography is a very
complex system--some people just can't understand it.

But don't feel bad or left out, tedekany--in any chain, you're the weakest link.

Oh, and by the way, I don't take "snapshots", sorry. I'll leave that to you.
What utter piffle. I never said a Canon FF can't ... (show quote)


As far as we can see, you don’t take any photos.

Which would make my snapshots superior to your nonexistent shots.

If you think, that your narcissistic behavior is anything special, I have news for you. You aren’t special.

You post so much bs, that you don’t even remember what you write. You indeed claimed several times that miniature formats can’t take sharp enough photos.

Go and crawl back under your rock. It is the end of 2018. People are taking award winners with Sony, canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji gear. Using zoom lenses.

Lastly, we all know why you don’t have any photos posted. They have nothing to do with your ridiculous excuses. You are simply not a photographer.

You could have shot everyone up with one of your imaginary photos that is superior to what is being produced today with smaller sensors.

Here are 2 real photographers, with 3 Pulitzer price wins between them. Guess what they use? M4/3. Imagine that.

https://www.jaydickman.net

http://larrycprice.com

Now do you understand why all that your write on this photography forum equals COW MANURE? It’s a waste of time.

These 2 men go out and produce quality work. Their work is posted on line. And guess what? The photography world didn’t come to an end.

You are a wannabe armchair expert on a photography forum. Do you not see how pathetic you are? Compare yourself to these 2 real photographers.

They are letting their work do the talking. What do you do? You talk. 😂

I get that you are trying to be some sort of authority, that you crave attention, but like every other narcissistic before you, it will backfire. You will be gone soon.

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Dec 29, 2018 12:06:33   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
Dude, you are easy to wind up.


Very typical. People with narcissistic personality are very easy to read. They are always right and we are always wrong.

Just read his reply to you. If I were to write that very same posts to him, he would be all up in arms about it. If I were to then point out to him, that he wrote that very same post, he would never address it.

They are very easy to read. What is funny is that they all think that they are special and unique. But it is the opposite. Unfortunately there is no cure for it.

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Dec 29, 2018 20:50:11   #
mudhen
 
And here I thought photography was fun.

Chris

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Dec 29, 2018 22:48:34   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
mudhen wrote:
And here I thought photography was fun.

Chris


Indeed it is, but once in awhile you get a bad Apple fall into UHH. It is temporary.

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Dec 29, 2018 22:57:58   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Hate speech.


You are a funny guy.

What do you think this reply of yours is?

Yeah, like Ansel Adams, Paul Strand, and Edward Weston were reallly concerned about "having a shot on your phone and ready to share"
(with all your little Facebook followers).

You can mix KoolAid instant beverage and have it ready-to-drink at any time. Oh boy! That's soooo high-tech! And sooo convenient!

Get a life. If you were any lazier, you'd need an iron lung

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