This is a lot of Bull. (caution: graphic)
Dec 16, 2018 07:15:13 #
Bmac wrote:
Think about that the next time you are frying up some bacon. 
Dec 16, 2018 07:16:07 #
Dec 16, 2018 07:17:48 #
KTJohnson wrote:
Helps to thin the herd keeping them healthier overall. If the herd gets too big many would starve to death during the winter (and our winters sometimes go from Oct. to April). It also puts meat in the freezer, much better tasting than venison.
Yes, but they only shoot the best ones of the herd...not the sickly ones. So therefore your assumption doesn't hold water.
Dec 16, 2018 07:57:12 #
KTJohnson wrote:
Helps to thin the herd keeping them healthier overall. If the herd gets too big many would starve to death during the winter (and our winters sometimes go from Oct. to April). It also puts meat in the freezer, much better tasting than venison.
It would seem to me that to make a healthier herd you would want to cull the weak and old ones, not the healthiest bucks.
That being said, although I would not want to kill one of these beautiful animals, I acknowledge that I pay others to kill the animals that I eat.
Dec 16, 2018 08:22:10 #
I am not a hunter and I suspect if I had to hunt to survive, I probably wouldn't survive. I like an Indian tradition (don't know which tribe, maybe all of them) who give thanks to the gods for success in the hunt. Culling the herds, even if the healthy ones are taken is necessary for continuing food sources. Also, bear in mind, that a large buck/bull with a big rack has spread his sperm among many females which can ultimately result ultimately in in-breeding of the genetic pool.
Dec 16, 2018 08:35:56 #
Nice photos. It’s too bad that some people don’t understand the concept of controlled hunts that manage the populations and therefore are practicing conservation more-so than the the live and let live folks.
Dec 16, 2018 09:12:00 #
Dec 16, 2018 09:18:41 #
berchman
Loc: South Central PA
DAN Phillips wrote:
If you leave them alone, nature will do it's job. When mankind get involved, they make a mess!
Hunt with a camera and everyone can enjoy them.
Hunt with a camera and everyone can enjoy them.
It's all right to leave them alone so long as you also leave alone their natural predators like wolves, mountain lions, and the like.
Dec 16, 2018 10:21:22 #
robertjerl wrote:
Some time ago a group in Florida got hunting of wh... (show quote)
The same applies to a ranch/farm, I was raised out west, due to the lack of rain it takes about 23 acres to support one cow/bull. If you run to many head they'll die of starvation or spend thousands feeding them. The same applies to wildlife IF common sense is used. I wish it could be taught in schools.
Dec 16, 2018 10:28:27 #
If Predator populations were not decreased the prey would not over populate. But then the Wolf and Mountain Lion hunters would be unhappy instead of the Deer, Elk, etc. hunters.
Dec 16, 2018 10:33:19 #
raferrelljr wrote:
Wonder how the hunters would feel if the roles were reversed?
I wouldn't want a freezer full of hunters that' for sure.
Dec 16, 2018 10:41:58 #
I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA, in the 50's. In the fall we would see deer tied to cars going down the road. The hunters would proudly hang their kill from their front porch to cool.
Dec 16, 2018 11:19:18 #
DAN Phillips wrote:
If you leave them alone, nature will do it's job. When mankind get involved, they make a mess!
Hunt with a camera and everyone can enjoy them.
Hunt with a camera and everyone can enjoy them.
As if man isn't part of nature? Mankind has been taking deer, elk, moose, bear, etc., since man became an omnivore, a million years ago. The only reason deer get out of hand at all, is that there aren't enough hunters.
Deer are rats, with horns. They have no alpha predators, except for man. Urban/Suburbanites don't want coyotes or wolves in their towns. That leaves man. Hunters pay taxes to hunt, and those taxes and fees help keep the herds healthy and within habitat supportable levels.
In Ann Arbor, Michigan, the deer are so invasive, that the city council had to hire hunters to kill off the excess. People complained about the deer eating their shrubs, flowers, etc. That's what happens when people look at "Bambi" instead of an invading herbivore.
I now hunt with a camera, but I still want the gun and bow hunters to do their job, so I have healthy animals to "hunt".
Dec 16, 2018 11:37:36 #
Man has hunted Elk and Deer since man came about. Over hunting and over population is the problems. Both can de managed.
Dec 16, 2018 11:49:09 #
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