Huey Driver Loc: Texas

OK Libs what say you about this

Sort of shoots your argument about a wall won't work right in the back side doesn't it? Nobody thinks a wall will stop 100% of the crossings but it darn sure would help. Time to quit with the BS and start doing something!

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2017/09/20/build-trump-border-wall-learn-israel-first/678600001/

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

If nothing else, at the very minimum, it would show the world that America is serious about protecting its border.
It is amazing that in the past, the Left was ready to spend much more that 5 Billion on a wall. But because it is President Trump, and it would be seen as a win by him rather than a win for America, now a wall is a bad thing, immoral to the i*****l a***ns and drug pushers who want to sell their deadly drugs to Americans.

Dennis

JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

You could do that by simply standing there and catching bad guys!!!
Oh wait, Trampo can’t work on that, he’s busy tweeting about building his legacy, not America’s!!! LoL
SS

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

You are absolutely correct, IF America only had 50-100 thousand people standing all along the border. Of course that would be Billions spent annually.

Sorry my friend but your limited Liberal thinking just won’t allow you to pursue a common sense thought process.

Dennis

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

That wall is heavily manned. It isn't asked to do the heavy lifting. That is done by Israeli soldiers who shoot to k**l anyone approaching the wall. That isn't who we are. At least not yet, and hopefully never.

Huey Driver Loc: Texas

Maybe that's who we should be and let everyone know we've had enough and are serious about defending our border. Or we could just sit on our asses like the Demorats have done for 8 years and just hope the problem corrects itself? Being civil about the problem isn't working. I say it's time to kick ass and take names! Why anyone tries to defend the action of illegal crossers is beyond me. We don't excuse other law breakers so why these folks?

jcboy3

Try this:

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-wall-wont-work

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Billions will be spend annually on maintenance. Painting the graffiti alone will require a small army!!!
SS

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

It’s always fun to suggest the simple solution and to say things like “kick ass and take names!” Sort of childish, too.

There is not a wall that someone can’t go over, under, or around. You mentionthe wall in Israel. Let me mention the one in Berlin.

Off hand, I don’t know how many Germans escaped, but many were k**led trying to escape. Remember Reagans famous, “Mr. G., tear down this wall!” That is, the strength of the institution created other problems, at least at the public relations level.

It is much more important that we stop drugs at our border, but that seems impossible. By estimate of professionals, our defensive agenda stops about 10% of the drugs attempting entry.

Life is not so simple as you wish, and simplicity is attractive, but perhaps more difficult than you think.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

The Practical Considerations
Fences or walls obstruct crossers’ paths, cutting off a straight shot into the interior of the country. But a barrier is not the permanent object that some people imagine. Natural events can knock down parts of a border fence. One storm in Texas left a hole for months. Fences and walls can also erode near rivers or beaches, as the one in San Diego did. And they can be penetrated: Some fencing can be cut in minutes, and the Border Patrol reported repairing more than 4,000 holes in one year alone. They neglected to mention whether that number equaled that year’s number of breaches.

Much of the current fencing can be easily mounted with a ladder or from the roof of a truck. In some cases, border crossers can scale the fence without any additional equipment. One v***l video from 2010 shows two women easily climbing an 18-foot steel bollard-style pedestrian fence in less than 20 seconds. Smugglers can even drive over the fence using ramps, a fact that was discovered only when a couple of foolish drug entrepreneurs managed to get their SUV stuck on top. (They took the dope and split.)

A wall would probably be less easily damaged by man or nature. But in at least some areas, its impassibility could also become a maintenance liability. Border Patrol agents have told Fox News that a border wall would still “have to allow water to pass through, or the sheer force of raging water could damage its integrity, not to mention the legal rights of both the U.S. and Mexico to seasonal rains.” In 2011, for example, a flood in Arizona washed away 40 feet of steel fence.

While not “impenetrable,” a concrete wall would impede efforts to cut through it. Trump has also claimed that no one would ever use a ladder to go over his wall because “there’s no way to get down.” After pondering the question for a second, he then conceded, “maybe a rope.” Nonetheless, the height might discourage some people from attempting to climb it, and it would certainly take them longer to do so, giving Border Patrol agents additional time to reach them.

If not over or through, some crossers may opt to go under. Tunnels are typically used more for drug smuggling, but they still create a significant vulnerability in any kind of physical barrier. From 2007 to 2010, the Border Patrol found more than one tunnel per month, on average. “For every tunnel we find, we feel they’re building another one somewhere,” Kevin Hecht, a Border Patrol tunnel expert, told The New York Times last year. A wall would likely increase the rewards for successful tunneling as other modes of t***sit grow more expensive.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/why-wall-wont-work

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

You excuse Trump every chance you get. You hear republicans say “but those aren’t serious crimes”, so yes you do excuse other law breakers.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

About 45 years ago some friends of mine built a ramp and brought several hundred pounds if weed across the border in a Dodge van. They were captured by border patrol just a few miles in. Apparently there were sensors that gave them up. Technology is much more sophisticated today. They said border patrol had the most god like attitude of any cops they ever met.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Actually the Mexicans are fully prepared to paint the graffiti for free so no worry there. I know that since you are of the Liberal mind bend/set you would actually encourage graffiti so the poor Mexicans can display their artistic ability for all the world to see.

Of course wall will need maintenance. Everything does. But are you the type of person who says you are not buying a vehicle because it will need maintenance, won't have a yard because it will need maintenance, won't live in a house because it will need maintenance? Face it, that is just one more dumb thing for Liberals to tell us so as not to do the right thing by building a wall. When both Clintons wanted a wall, when Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and others all wanted a wall, you didn't seem to mind the maintenance issue then.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

As usual you have missed the class on World Walls 101. The Berlin Wall was built specifically to keep people inside. A border wall on America's Southern border is there to keep undesirable people out. How did you, UHH's well known scholar on everything under the sun, miss that simple fact?

Of course walls can be gone over, under or through. No problem there. But the wall still makes it more difficult to accomplish entry by all but the most determined aggressors. It sure as hell makes it tougher than someone simply climbing up and over as we have now. Of course drugs will still come in but a wall will surely limit entry of drugs too.

Like most Liberals you seem worried that having a wall on our Southern border will make the rest of the world dislike us. But, and once again, you seem to not be aware that every other country on the planet has borders that are enforceable and generally illegal to cross without permission. You seem to miss a lot of what goes on in the world except for those facts, or non facts, that support your Liberal anti American position. Maybe you would be better off if you looked at what is best for America rather than at the world wide view of a One World Nation as the Left is wanting to do these days.

Dennis