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Dec 10, 2018 13:58:04   #
elent
 
When I upload a photo to Photoshop and then check the image size, PS shows the picture (usually a humungus dimension) at 72 dpi. Does this affect the print quality? I change the dpi to 220 or whatever and all works well, I was just wondering if it is a quality issue and i need to reset some parameter in PS or elsewhere? Thanks

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Dec 10, 2018 14:01:49   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
You sure it’s not showing PPI? (Pixels Per Inch)

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Dec 10, 2018 14:18:44   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
elent wrote:
When I upload a photo to Photoshop and then check the image size, PS shows the picture (usually a humungus dimension) at 72 dpi. Does this affect the print quality? I change the dpi to 220 or whatever and all works well, I was just wondering if it is a quality issue and i need to reset some parameter in PS or elsewhere? Thanks

I suspect you'll be subject to some grief for using "dpi" when you meant "ppi" since Photoshop only shows dimensions in ppi. However, I just bought a print shop here in San Diego, and in talking to the printers there, they understand that in today's world, dpi & ppi are pretty interchangeable. In my new print shop, we don't actually use ppi or dpi for printing. We use lpi, which is lines per inch. However, our customers don't need to know that because they can't do anything with that information. They simply want the best, and that's what we give them. In translating to something they will understand and can work with at home, we would prefer at least 300 ppi/dpi, but it depends what we're printing on--matte paper, glossy paper, acrylic, aluminum, canvass, etc.

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Dec 10, 2018 14:32:00   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
72 DPI/PPI is an old screen res standard.

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Dec 10, 2018 15:30:15   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
elent wrote:
When I upload a photo to Photoshop and then check the image size, PS shows the picture (usually a humungus dimension) at 72 dpi. Does this affect the print quality? I change the dpi to 220 or whatever and all works well, I was just wondering if it is a quality issue and i need to reset some parameter in PS or elsewhere? Thanks


You will discover that if you change the resolution in PS from 72 ppi to 600n without resampling, there will be no difference in the image - the file size will be the same, and the image will still be whatever pixels wide by pixels high it was. Resampling will make a huge difference, however.

This should help

https://photographylife.com/dpi-vs-ppi

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Dec 10, 2018 16:10:18   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Best and safest procedure: 300 ppi at the dimensions you want the print.

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Dec 10, 2018 16:44:41   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
artBob wrote:
Best and safest procedure: 300 ppi at the dimensions you want the print.


That’s been my preferred number as well for quality print work.

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Dec 10, 2018 17:14:22   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
You will discover that if you change the resolution in PS from 72 ppi to 600n without resampling, there will be no difference in the image - the file size will be the same, and the image will still be whatever pixels wide by pixels high it was. Resampling will make a huge difference, however.

This should help

https://photographylife.com/dpi-vs-ppi


👍👍 Exactly. First DPI does not equal PPI. Secondly, the 72 DPI is a default value that you’ll find in the EXIF data, regardless of the actual resolution of the image. This “magic” number, although pointless today, originated with Apple when it was both the screen resolution of the monitor and the print resolution of the concurrent Apple printer. Ignore it.

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Dec 11, 2018 07:30:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
russelray wrote:
I suspect you'll be subject to some grief for using "dpi" when you meant "ppi" ...


Yes! Those terms should be blocked from UHH.

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Dec 11, 2018 08:39:00   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes! Those terms should be blocked from UHH.


Well next time someone starts an acronym thread, I will add:

dpi and

ppi

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Dec 11, 2018 08:39:13   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
opps

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Dec 11, 2018 12:20:16   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
elent wrote:
When I upload a photo to Photoshop and then check the image size, PS shows the picture (usually a humungus dimension) at 72 dpi. Does this affect the print quality? I change the dpi to 220 or whatever and all works well, I was just wondering if it is a quality issue and i need to reset some parameter in PS or elsewhere? Thanks


An image that's 72 ppi with dimensions of 55.55 inches by 83.33 inches is EXACTLY the same resolution as one that's 300 ppi with dimensions of 13.33 inches by 20 inches.

Doesn't matter. Either one is 4000 x 6000 pixels (which is the size image a typical 24MP camera creates). Keep in mind the "ppi" means "pixels per inch".

Changing from 72 ppi to 300 ppi (or anything else you might choose) will make no difference, so long as you don't let Photoshop "resample" the image. "Uncheck" that box.

Alternatively, if you change the inch dimensions with "resample" unchecked, you'll see the ppi change automatically.

72 ppi was a common computer monitor/Internet resolution year ago, but is hardly used today (some "recording" devices such as cameras default to it).

Today 100 ppi is the most common for monitors (and the Internet).... But even higher resolutions (so-called "4K" and "5K") are becoming more common, but are far from wide usage yet.

If you set a 5x7" image to 100 ppi and view it "at 100%" in Photoshop, measure the image and you'll find it's pretty darned close to 5x7" on your screen.

100 ppi is a good resolution to use for images that will be displayed online.

If you will be making prints, the resolution needed depends upon the print process, the size of the print (the distance it will be viewed from) and other factors.

But 240 ppi is a good minimum resolution for many print processes (including photo quality inkjets such as you might be using at home).

Personally I use 300 ppi.... mostly because the math is easier and I can do it in my head! That 5x7" print mentioned above needs to be 1500x2100 pixels.

"Dpi" is a printing term. "Ppi" is a digital term. They are often used interchangeably... though technically they aren't. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Dec 11, 2018 12:39:54   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
amfoto1 wrote:
An image that's 72 ppi with dimensions of 55.55 inches by 83.33 inches is EXACTLY the same resolution as one that's 300 ppi with dimensions of 13.33 inches by 20 inches.

Doesn't matter. Either one is 4000 x 6000 pixels (which is the size image a typical 24MP camera creates). Keep in mind the "ppi" means "pixels per inch".

Changing from 72 ppi to 300 ppi (or anything else you might choose) will make no difference, so long as you don't let Photoshop "resample" the image. "Uncheck" that box.

Alternatively, if you change the inch dimensions with "resample" unchecked, you'll see the ppi change automatically.

72 ppi was a common computer monitor/Internet resolution year ago, but is hardly used today (some "recording" devices such as cameras default to it).

Today 100 ppi is the most common for monitors (and the Internet).... But even higher resolutions (so-called "4K" and "5K") are becoming more common, but are far from wide usage yet.

If you set a 5x7" image to 100 ppi and view it "at 100%" in Photoshop, measure the image and you'll find it's pretty darned close to 5x7" on your screen.

100 ppi is a good resolution to use for images that will be displayed online.

If you will be making prints, the resolution needed depends upon the print process, the size of the print (the distance it will be viewed from) and other factors.

But 240 ppi is a good minimum resolution for many print processes (including photo quality inkjets such as you might be using at home).

Personally I use 300 ppi.... mostly because the math is easier and I can do it in my head! That 5x7" print mentioned above needs to be 1500x2100 pixels.

"Dpi" is a printing term. "Ppi" is a digital term. They are often used interchangeably... though technically they aren't. I wouldn't worry about it.
An image that's 72 ppi with dimensions of 55.55 in... (show quote)

These bottom lines are the essentials in a nutshell: "But 240 ppi is a good minimum resolution for many print processes (including photo quality inkjets such as you might be using at home).

Personally I use 300 ppi.... mostly because the math is easier and I can do it in my head! That 5x7" print mentioned above needs to be 1500x2100 pixels.

"Dpi" is a printing term. "Ppi" is a digital term. They are often used interchangeably... though technically they aren't. I wouldn't worry about it."

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Dec 11, 2018 15:27:28   #
elent
 
That's what I needed to know.

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Dec 12, 2018 00:01:00   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
artBob wrote:
These bottom lines are the essentials in a nutshell: "But 240 ppi is a good minimum resolution for many print processes (including photo quality inkjets such as you might be using at home).

Personally I use 300 ppi.... mostly because the math is easier and I can do it in my head! That 5x7" print mentioned above needs to be 1500x2100 pixels.

"Dpi" is a printing term. "Ppi" is a digital term. They are often used interchangeably... though technically they aren't. I wouldn't worry about it."
These bottom lines are the essentials in a nutshel... (show quote)


More correctly, dpi is either scanner samples per inch or printer dots per inch. Dots always have dimensions! Pixels are JUST NUMBERS.

A pixel can be REPRESENTED (printed or displayed) by any number of dots.

A dot captured by a scanner typically gets represented by one pixel in the resulting file, but there can be scaling interpolation.

The dpi field in an EXIF table tells graphic arts applications how large to scale an image when it is first loaded into a page layout program. It is (misleadingly) called dpi only because of its heritage in the scanner industry.

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