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JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Well, I would say that ALL FILES can be READ as TEXT FILES, should you choose to -- and be able to -- open the file with text editing software. Many of the data bytes in an image file, particularly those in the header region of the file, are arranged in byte groups that conform to ASCII characters, and sometimes the software begins reading the data at the right point to actually decipher part of the header text to generate sensible words, like "A d o b e P h o t o s h o p E l e m e n t s  A d o b e P h o t o s h o p E l e m e n t s 3 . 0". Note that if the software reading the file had shifted the byte frame by even a single bit you would not have seen that line of text. Were you just lucky? Who knows.

I was hoping to be able to go the other way and generate "Op Art" or other interesting "abstract pictures" by opening a non-image file with an imaging program, but I could not force my imaging programs to open files they could not recognize (by the extension). As stated earlier, the Preview application is smart enough to actually decipher even a spreadsheet and present it for viewing; you can't do any math, but you can view the data values in proper layout.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Plato was onto something with his “forms”.

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

Well, you obviously feel strongly the need to be viewed as correct, so have at it.

But a raw file can be better considered like an unprocessed piece of film in the analog days - not an image until it is processed. If that don't float your boat, then you are beyond hope. ANd I shan't bother trying to clarify things here.

f8lee Loc: New Mexico

We are all but shadows on the walls of the cave.

Or, in modern cosmological theory, a hologram inside the sphere of reality (or something like that)

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Or, as the 1960s comedy satire team, The Conception Corporation might say, “Like wow, man, what’s the number of that ‘acid rescue service’ again?

Sometimes UHH just gets amusingly pointless...

jlocke Loc: Austin, TX

Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

RAW simply does not fit the standard of being a "transportable" image file.

JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.

Gee, I thought EVERY file is "transportable" as long as I have it on a memory stick or CD-ROM or removable hard drive. Oh, wait a minute, even the files on my desktop computer are transportable if I pick it up and move it to another room. And come to think of it, even the files on a data cloud are transportable if I have enough Mack trucks to move the server farm.

OK, sorry, bad pun... and I think I am almost done on this topic.

Final thought based on the philosophical question, "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

To those who argue that a JPEG is an image file but a raw file is not, I would ask, "Is a JPEG an image file if it is not opened and viewed?" If both file types are successfully opened, will they will not both be seen as images? And if they are not opened, how can we know what lurks inside?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

scsdesphotography Loc: Southeastern Michigan

Okay f8lee, I reread your explanation and I don't think we are that far apart. raw data is just that, data. It's the raw interpreter that contains the instruction set. However each photocell in a pixel can return a value for R, G, and B, whether they're covered by a filter or not. The filter does not remove all the other frequencies, just most of them. It's up to the software to decide what it's looking at. It can ignore the other two values or not, but the values are available. I suspect that the differences in raw interpreters has to do with how the other values are ignored or not. I do understand that the process is way more involved than that and your post does go a ways to explain how complicated the path is to that final color value displayed on your screen.