Outdated OS and Adobe
Dec 10, 2018 09:42:26 #
I read this shortly after I read your lament. Another indication that buying and holding is darn near impossible.
"The strategy document released last week from the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s investigations panel suggests companies completely overhaul the way they find and fix vulnerabilities in everything from the power grid to smart thermostats, cameras and cars.
It even contemplates fundamentally changing the way consumers get Internet-connected products. Maybe they should lease instead of buying them, for example, so they don’t keep using outdated technology that becomes more vulnerable to hackers with each passing year."
"The strategy document released last week from the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s investigations panel suggests companies completely overhaul the way they find and fix vulnerabilities in everything from the power grid to smart thermostats, cameras and cars.
It even contemplates fundamentally changing the way consumers get Internet-connected products. Maybe they should lease instead of buying them, for example, so they don’t keep using outdated technology that becomes more vulnerable to hackers with each passing year."
Dec 10, 2018 10:10:53 #
Tomcat5133
Loc: Gladwyne PA
A problem I brought up recently here is what will Adobe with our Suite do when we decide what that $50 a month is too much.
Will all the PS files and others open. Like Indesign and Illustrator. And LR. My good graphics friend and I think that we will
be screwed. CC files will not be available to us. Think Adobe will try and up this price soon. Apple has been fairly good about
OS upgrades. Things do work a few versions back. But many tech companies are into control not helping the user.
Microsoft would be a big offender. I had a gift card and bought a reasonable HP Windows laptop. It said I can download
Windows 10 which never worked after numerous tries. And the processors sometimes are not able work with
new OS's.
Will all the PS files and others open. Like Indesign and Illustrator. And LR. My good graphics friend and I think that we will
be screwed. CC files will not be available to us. Think Adobe will try and up this price soon. Apple has been fairly good about
OS upgrades. Things do work a few versions back. But many tech companies are into control not helping the user.
Microsoft would be a big offender. I had a gift card and bought a reasonable HP Windows laptop. It said I can download
Windows 10 which never worked after numerous tries. And the processors sometimes are not able work with
new OS's.
Dec 10, 2018 10:43:01 #
Similar situation here Jerry. My ""old"" G5 from about 2005 is still on my side desk, and used every time I return from a shoot. It nicely burns my cards to a DVD, and then makes my thumb nail sheets. My 28" is probably 6 or 8 years old and functioning perfectly. It uses 10.9.5 but PSCS5 works perfectly on it. And my laptop, using 10.4.11 works perfectly every teaching day. Before switching to Mac, I'd agree that my former PCs had to be replaced at least every 4 years, but such is not the case with the Apples. True, I don't update OS, but consider.....I can do all that I wish to do with Photoshop, so why should I upgrade? It all works perfectly.
Dec 10, 2018 10:50:01 #
Tom Daniels wrote:
A problem I brought up recently here is what will ... (show quote)
If you want Win 10, you can download the ISO online for free and buy a working registration code on eBay for less than $15.
Dec 10, 2018 11:08:35 #
fotobyferg wrote:
So, my perfectly fine 2009 MacBook Pro can no long... (show quote)
You seem to be aware of your options. Even if you toss LR/PS and try another edit package, you will soon get into trouble or likely not run on your edsel. I'd bite the bullet and move up while the transition is not difficult. OS's and Software to generate money, make changes. some are cosmetic and questionable while othersa are requested/demanded by users. Kind of like the aging process less the options to buy a new heart, lung, etc
Dec 10, 2018 13:49:59 #
One of the disadvantages of Apple products, they don't play well with 3rd party manufacturers and develooer"s and probably never will, do to Apple's proprietary rights. This has always been both good and bad for Apple products. I believe Apple has always produced top of the line, leading edge products because of their proprietary standards. This also creates increased cost to the consumer with fewer available options, that generally require apple products.
I happen to have a custom windows based system built in 2003 that is still running strong, currently running on Windows 10 with 32GB ram and a dedicated video card. It still works quite well with every Adobe product available.
Bottom line. It sounds as though it is time to upgrade your system to a newer model. That is another feather in Apple's marketing plan cap. They require much more frequent upgrade purchases, in order to stay up to date with the times.
All a matter of consumer choice. There are many benefits and drawbacks, regardless what type of computer system is choosen.
I happen to have a custom windows based system built in 2003 that is still running strong, currently running on Windows 10 with 32GB ram and a dedicated video card. It still works quite well with every Adobe product available.
Bottom line. It sounds as though it is time to upgrade your system to a newer model. That is another feather in Apple's marketing plan cap. They require much more frequent upgrade purchases, in order to stay up to date with the times.
All a matter of consumer choice. There are many benefits and drawbacks, regardless what type of computer system is choosen.
Dec 10, 2018 14:09:33 #
Just spoke with my Apple repair guy, who is also a close friend. Basically, his advice was to continue using my 1TB solid state laptop running El Capitan “until the bolts fall out.” There is no compelling reason for me to upgrade at this time unless and until my software stops working and I simply must have the latest greatest product.
Since I have never had the latest greatest lemming mentality I am going to go with his advice. He is a great technition, lifetime Apple guy and I trust his knowledge and respect his advice.
Interesting to also hear his opinion on the changes in Apple products since Jobs left, but that is a subject for another thread!
Since I have never had the latest greatest lemming mentality I am going to go with his advice. He is a great technition, lifetime Apple guy and I trust his knowledge and respect his advice.
Interesting to also hear his opinion on the changes in Apple products since Jobs left, but that is a subject for another thread!
Dec 10, 2018 15:38:38 #
I updated my 17" 2009 MacBook Pro from El Capitan to High Sierra using http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/ with no problems. Runs the current version of Lightroom Classic CC and Photoshop CC with no problems. I have not tried updating to Mojave because I don't want to goose a sleeping tiger.
Dec 10, 2018 19:33:13 #
Larry Powell
Loc: Columbus OH
You might want to try Adobe Photoshop Elements. I can run Elements 19 on My MacBook Pro from 2011. I am on Sierra 10.12.6 and cannot update the OS either. Elements gives you plenty and is on sale at B&H Photo for $69. You can download a trial for free. I hear people praise LR. I have not used it but have seen the interface and others use LR. I do not believe LR can do text though (not sure). Of course Elements is not a subscription either. I am quite sure your MacBook can run it.
Dec 10, 2018 20:10:26 #
Dec 10, 2018 20:11:29 #
nadelewitz
Loc: Ithaca NY
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
This problem of upgradability is even worse than t... (show quote)
You have to be willing to STOP playing Apple's game.
Number one, Apple prematurely makes hardware obsolete by not being able to upgrade OSX on it past a particular version.
Number two, there's no reason why a 64-bit OS shouldn't be able to run 32-bit programs.
I put Windows 10 on 10-11 year old computers and it runs just fine. Windows 10 64-bit runs 32-bit apps every day of the week.
It's really creepy how Apple addicts succumb to whatever Apple does. Keep on satisfying your Apple addiction if you want, but there IS another option in Windows.
Dec 10, 2018 20:35:45 #
FWIW, I am far from an Apple addict, so don’t characterize me as such.
I used Windows for years, but never looked back after making the switch to a Mac.
I used Windows for years, but never looked back after making the switch to a Mac.
Dec 10, 2018 20:59:46 #
nadelewitz
Loc: Ithaca NY
fotobyferg wrote:
FWIW, I am far from an Apple addict, so don’t characterize me as such.
I used Windows for years, but never looked back after making the switch to a Mac.
I used Windows for years, but never looked back after making the switch to a Mac.
Enjoy. Good luck.
Dec 11, 2018 13:48:37 #
TriX wrote:
If you want Win 10, you can download the ISO online for free and buy a working registration code on eBay for less than $15.
And that code actually works.
Dec 11, 2018 21:03:07 #
You might also want to see how you could get the DAM application and then switch to Luminar. Admittedly, my 2013 iMac is running fine on High Sierra and I could update to Mojave, but it is just a bit too new right now. I run Luminar with no troubles at all and really like toe program. And, at $69.00 purchase price and free updates, it is quite a bargain.
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