Dynamic Range: I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day regarding his concern of the reported lack of dynamic range in the new Canon 6D Mark II. I was trying to...

rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day regarding his concern of the reported lack of dynamic range in the new Canon 6D Mark II. I was trying to explain that I felt the proper use of ND and GND filters would let him not blow out the highlights and increase the detail in the shadows and thus negate any of his concerns and actually increase the range. Was I correct? What are your thoughts?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Personally, I rely a great deal on ETTR/EBTR techniques. There's are on-going threads right now in the Landscape section.
--Bob

rydabyk wrote:

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day regarding his concern of the reported lack of dynamic range in the new Canon 6D Mark II. I was trying to explain that I felt the proper use of ND and GND filters would let him not blow out the highlights and increase the detail in the shadows and thus negate any of his concerns and actually increase the range. Was I correct? What are your thoughts?

John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.

rmalarz wrote:

Personally, I rely a great deal on ETTR/EBTR techniques. There's an on-going thread right now in the Landscape section.
--Bob

rmalarz where do I find the "landscape section". Cant find the topic list.

rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle

rmalarz wrote:

Personally, I rely a great deal on ETTR/EBTR techniques. There's an on-going thread right now in the Landscape section.
--Bob

Thanks, I forgot about that section. Maybe I'll just repost this over there.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

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rydabyk wrote:

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day regarding his concern of the reported lack of dynamic range in the new Canon 6D Mark II. I was trying to explain that I felt the proper use of ND and GND filters would let him not blow out the highlights and increase the detail in the shadows and thus negate any of his concerns and actually increase the range. Was I correct? What are your thoughts?

Using an ND filter should actually decrease the dynamic range of the camera. Yes, it decreases the exposure of ALL the elements in the scene equally (thus not affecting the DR of the scene), BUT by causing you to use a higher ISO for the same exposure, it lowers DR of the camera (DR is inversely proportional to ISO). Using a graduated ND actually typically compresses the DR of the scene, so more likely to fit a high DR scene into the limited DR of the camera. Make sense?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

John, it's a relatively new section. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-132-1.html

You can also go to the All Sections page, https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list , and look towards the bottom of the list.
--Bob

John Howard wrote:

rmalarz where do I find the "landscape section". Cant find the topic list.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

rydabyk wrote:

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day regarding his concern of the reported lack of dynamic range in the new Canon 6D Mark II. I was trying to explain that I felt the proper use of ND and GND filters would let him not blow out the highlights and increase the detail in the shadows and thus negate any of his concerns and actually increase the range. Was I correct? What are your thoughts?

So, does your friend have an actual problem in their images, or just an imagined problem from reading the work of internet experts?

John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.

Jus found it - thanks for getting back. Made my first post too.

rmalarz wrote:

John, it's a relatively new section. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-132-1.html

You can also go to the All Sections page, https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list , and look towards the bottom of the list.
--Bob

rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle

CHG_CANON wrote:

So, does your friend have an actual problem in their images, or just an imagined problem from reading the work of internet experts?

Hahaha, that's what I asked and he said he was thinking about buying the camera and it was a concern (real or imagined I don't know) that he had after reading reviews from the internet experts. By the way, I have that same camera and I don't have any problems at all.

wds0410 Loc: Nunya

rydabyk wrote:

Hahaha, that's what I asked and he said he was thinking about buying the camera and it was a concern (real or imagined I don't know) that he had after reading reviews from the internet experts. By the way, I have that same camera and I don't have any problems at all.

I have that camera too and don't really have any major problems with it. Sometimes I bracket if the scene has a very wide dynamic range and I've noticed that shots with very low available light may have some grain in the shadows. But it's still a pretty good camera. Probably not the best full frame camera out there but good enough for me for now.

alby Loc: very eastern pa.

John Howard wrote:

rmalarz where do I find the "landscape section". Cant find the topic list.

i also didn't know "landscape" existed ... found it and put it on my page, will check it daily, well almost.. thanks

CO

An ND filter will not increase the dynamic range. It affects the entire image equally. I think he's right about the Canon 6d Mk.II. I just loaded that camera and the Nikon D750 into DXO Lab's sensor comparison tool. At ISO100 the D750 has about 2-stops more dynamic range.

Red line Nikon D750. Orange line Canon 6D Mk.II

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catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

Bracket three exposures (camera menu setup) and use a tripod in lower light situations to keep the ISO low, and you will edit the best dynamic range possible ...

bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD

rmalarz wrote:

Personally, I rely a great deal on ETTR/EBTR techniques. There's are on-going threads right now in the Landscape section.
--Bob

I didn't know we had a "Landscape section" I know its been talked about the last few weeks but I never saw any confirmation on it.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

catchlight.. wrote:

Bracket three exposures (camera menu setup) and use a tripod in lower light situations to keep the ISO low, and you will edit the best dynamic range possible ...

I believe in bracketing but if you are going to bracket like that, why not use HDR or masks? If you use just a single shot, what is more important: good mid-tones or greatest dynamic range? I, for one, opt for the former. Just think of how your eye works and you have the answer.