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Dec 5, 2018 11:58:52   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
treadwl wrote:
When I start shooting I was like you, I just took the picture. But one day I was out in the field and a real pro was working the same scene as I was. He asked me what I was taking a picture of and I thought he was nuts. As he explained what he meant, it began to make sense. I fully credit him for my photographic growth.



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Dec 5, 2018 12:44:44   #
PeterBergh
 
treadwl wrote:
When ever I set about taking a landscape image I start with a mental question: What am I taking a picture of and why am I taking it? This does not mean my answer is "the Grand Canyon" because it is too grand (pun intended) and because that can't be captured in a single image. So maybe the answer Steamboat Rock. So once I decide the "what" then I can address the "why". When I decide why, then I must figure out how to convey that feeling. ...


This is a very interesting line of thought. For me, I do the exact opposite: I see something and think "there's a photo there somewhere", so I take a picture. In post, I try to bring out "the photo". If I fail, I discard the image.

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Dec 5, 2018 13:19:00   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
To have someone walk through the entire process, from picking the lighting and subject, to the camera settings, to what pp was used was invaluable to me! It is a lovely image, made even more so by the work and thought you put into it. Keep those "mini-lessons" coming!

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Dec 5, 2018 16:36:12   #
debbie wrazen Loc: Western New York
 
Beautiful, Larry. Didn't realize that the gorge was open to spectators during the winter months.

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Dec 5, 2018 18:15:19   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Beautiful area and a beautiful photo of what you saw there.
--Bob
treadwl wrote:
When ever I set about taking a landscape image I start with a mental question: What am I taking a picture of and why am I taking it? This does not mean my answer is "the Grand Canyon" because it is too grand (pun intended) and because that can't be captured in a single image. So maybe the answer Steamboat Rock. So once I decide the "what" then I can address the "why". When I decide why, then I must figure out how to convey that feeling.

Below is my thought process for the accompanying image. I know it is long winded but I hope it provides an insight to how I think. I offer it as a discussion starter.

PURPOSE: This photo was taken in Watkins Glen, New York in mid November. My first thought as I walked into the gorge carved by Glen Creek was “this place is old”. I was struck by the layers of bare rock and the way the creek had cut its way 150 feet down through the rock over eons of time. I wanted to capture this feeling that so encompassed me. I chose to shot this gorge in the fall with the dead leaves on the bare rock because I felt the leaves lent to the feeling of the passage of time. I included the fading yellow/green leaves on the left because they too showed the passage of time. I chose this singular location from the many views in the mile long gorge because of its narrowness and the way the swirling waters had twisted their way through the rock and the various pools and channels it had created. While the water level in the fall is less than in spring this time of year allows the viewer to see what has happened to the rock. I included the lower pool because I felt it looked like the water was biting away a chunk of rock with sharp teeth. While I would have preferred to get closer to the floor the sharp cliff drops make it impossible and still maintain life and limb. This was taken while standing on a rock ledge.

PROCESSING: Because of the narrow nature of the gorge the best camera orientation is vertical. This necessitates cropping off portions of the upper cliff walls that I felt took away impact. I needed the long shutter speed to increase the appearance of the water coming over the high falls on the left. The photo was taken on an overcast, misty day (this was planned on my part) so as to remove highlights or spotted glare from the sun. I increased highlights to brighten the whites in the water that were duller in color. I also increased clarity and sharpness on the falling parts of the water and lightened a few shadows. I purposely kept detail in all the dark holes on the rock walls.

CAMERA SETTINGS: Nikon D810 with 24-70mm lens.
ISO 64: Low ISO to reduce noise and obtain the greatest quality
Aperture 20: To allow for maximum depth of field
Shutter 13 seconds: I took the image at several different all to get the "feel" I wanted from the moving water
Polarizer: to reduce glare
Tripod and Cable Release to reduce camera shake
Image from Nikon RAW file to obtain the greatest amount of digital information for when I processed the image.


Please enjoy this image in the download.
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Dec 5, 2018 19:08:35   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Beautiful photo, helps me to think a little more about composition and especially process, thanks


Hope it works for you when you are in the field.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:09:13   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
tdekany wrote:


Thanks for looking.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:10:21   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
Thanks for the back story. I have not been to Watkins Glen in forty years. Of course I was there for the Cam Am and the Six Hours of Endurance races. Never considered scouting out the area. Even if I found this spot I am sure I would not have done it the justice that you did on this shot. Nicely done.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:13:42   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
PeterBergh wrote:
This is a very interesting line of thought. For me, I do the exact opposite: I see something and think "there's a photo there somewhere", so I take a picture. In post, I try to bring out "the photo". If I fail, I discard the image.


It was offered as something to think about. I am not opposed to editing my work in Lightroom. Indeed all my images get the once over on the computer (especially since I shoot in RAW) but I do try to get it right in the camera. Sometimes I know the scene will require some HDR so then I know I'll be tied to the computer.

Thanks for looking.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:14:50   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
tommystrat wrote:
To have someone walk through the entire process, from picking the lighting and subject, to the camera settings, to what pp was used was invaluable to me! It is a lovely image, made even more so by the work and thought you put into it. Keep those "mini-lessons" coming!


Thanks. I'm glad it helped. I hope to be doing some more of this type of thing since this is a forum on improving landscape photography.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:15:54   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
debbie wrazen wrote:
Beautiful, Larry. Didn't realize that the gorge was open to spectators during the winter months.


The gorge closes as soon as the snow flies and ices the trails. It snowed the day after I left so I got lucky.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:16:23   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
rmalarz wrote:
Beautiful area and a beautiful photo of what you saw there.
--Bob


Thanks much Bob. I do appreciate your thoughts.

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Dec 5, 2018 19:19:30   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
NJFrank wrote:
Thanks for the back story. I have not been to Watkins Glen in forty years. Of course I was there for the Cam Am and the Six Hours of Endurance races. Never considered scouting out the area. Even if I found this spot I am sure I would not have done it the justice that you did on this shot. Nicely done.


I'm sure it has not changed that much over the years. You could not miss this spot---once in the gorge if you follow the only trail there is, you can't miss a thing. For the record, shooting this shot required a raincoat for both myself and my camera, water was dripping off the cliffs above me the entire time I was shooting this scene. And it was in the high 20's, so nice and chilly. :-)

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Dec 5, 2018 20:34:52   #
PeterBergh
 
treadwl wrote:
It was offered as something to think about. I am not opposed to editing my work in Lightroom. Indeed all my images get the once over on the computer (especially since I shoot in RAW) but I do try to get it right in the camera. Sometimes I know the scene will require some HDR so then I know I'll be tied to the computer.

Thanks for looking.


I understood what you were saying. I merely wanted to point out that some people, such as myself, work more on intuition than on thinking.

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Dec 5, 2018 21:52:03   #
treadwl Loc: South Florida
 
PeterBergh wrote:
I understood what you were saying. I merely wanted to point out that some people, such as myself, work more on intuition than on thinking.



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