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Nov 28, 2018 07:43:13   #
sunsandwater
 
I am certainly not an experienced shooter but recently bought a 7200. It's a big upgrade from my 3100. Love it.

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Nov 28, 2018 07:45:17   #
Terrymac Loc: LONDON U.K.
 
That is the answer alright. Like it. Thanks.

Cdouthitt wrote:

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Nov 28, 2018 07:58:38   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Elmo55 wrote:
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering trading it in along with a D3400, and several lenses that I am not using (to reduce inventory) for a used D7200. Prices on used D7200's range from high fives to high sevens depending on quality (when I started this thought process). Can purchase a new D7200 from Amazon for $795 during "Black Friday" promotion (if I hurry). The big question that first comes to mind, "do I really need to upgrade, and is the D7200 going to give me that much more to justify the expenditure?" I am a landscape/wild animals/vacation/grand kids shooter primarily (not a lot of scenic landscapes or wild animals in Illinois). So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation. The one big advantage for the D7200 is 2 card slots so that I could start playing with RAW on 1 card and JPEG on the other. To date I am strictly a JPEG shooter. I have attached a sample of my work so far with the D5300. I will appreciate all thoughts, both positive and negative in helping me to make a final decision. Thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering tradi... (show quote)

Unless you are a professional, buying a new camera upgrade isn't about need, it is about want. So to answer your two questions, Yes and Yes. There is a reason it is called an "upgrade!" $500 is a relatively minimal expense and you seem to be lowering that amount by selling of equipment. So what do you have to lose?

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Nov 28, 2018 08:06:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
robertjerl wrote:
I use Canon so will stay out of that part.
But I disagree about lack of landscapes and wildlife in Illinois.
You have river valleys, prairies, swamp/march/lakes and loads of birds, esp migrating waterfowl and deer.
I do know the 7000 series does better at action/birds/sports than the others in general.


Side Note:
People here on the Hog often mention that it is the photographer and not the equipment. I often disagree, since I think it is most often a combination. However, here is a fine example of when it really is the photographer. Some photographers cannot see the possibilities around them so the equipment is meaningless. Photographers who do see exciting photos in their environment can capture an interesting and worthwhile picture with any camera.

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Nov 28, 2018 08:07:47   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Go RAW or go home.

The weak link of most DLSRs is the reliance on SD cards for image storage, it is far too easy to damage them. With a dual card system, always use the 2nd slot as a backup.
And I know I will get a lot of pushback on this, but, if you are changing your workflow to incorporate RAW, why bother with shooting JPEGS in camera? Spend time fine tuning your workflow to incorporate RAW processing and just export as JPEG for posting on line, etc.
Go RAW or go home. img src="https://static.ugly... (show quote)

Spot on! Unless you have to turn the images over to someone or want to Instagram quickly, there is no need for jpeg on your card. It is a perceived, but unnecessary, safety net. I have only shot RAW for years now, even shooting 50% sports. I upgraded from D7200 to D500 to handle the higher FPS and buffer I needed to do so.

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Nov 28, 2018 08:15:14   #
LenCreate
 
You answered your own question: “So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation.”

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Nov 28, 2018 08:18:01   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
Elmo55 wrote:
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering trading it in along with a D3400, and several lenses that I am not using (to reduce inventory) for a used D7200. Prices on used D7200's range from high fives to high sevens depending on quality (when I started this thought process). Can purchase a new D7200 from Amazon for $795 during "Black Friday" promotion (if I hurry). The big question that first comes to mind, "do I really need to upgrade, and is the D7200 going to give me that much more to justify the expenditure?" I am a landscape/wild animals/vacation/grand kids shooter primarily (not a lot of scenic landscapes or wild animals in Illinois). So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation. The one big advantage for the D7200 is 2 card slots so that I could start playing with RAW on 1 card and JPEG on the other. To date I am strictly a JPEG shooter. I have attached a sample of my work so far with the D5300. I will appreciate all thoughts, both positive and negative in helping me to make a final decision. Thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering tradi... (show quote)


On your "Shooting" menu, you should have a choice, Jpeg, Raw, Raw+Jpeg on the same single card, granted you may want to get a 64gb or higher GB memory card when using Raw+Jpeg. But this way you would save a lot of G.A.S.

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Nov 28, 2018 08:32:53   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
The 7200 ia Great camera. Besides two slots it has many important functions as on camera buttons for easy changes in settings. The 7200 is also compatible with more Nikon lenses. See Ken Rockwell's website on Nikon lens compatibility. In any case, I would suggest that you start shooting RAW. It is like having a negative the can be post processed in many ways. RAW processing can take an OK shot and turn it into a great one.

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Nov 28, 2018 08:56:08   #
I Derfdog
 
I need some of that. Where to buy?
Cdouthitt wrote:

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Nov 28, 2018 08:57:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Elmo55 wrote:
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering trading it in along with a D3400, and several lenses that I am not using (to reduce inventory) for a used D7200. Prices on used D7200's range from high fives to high sevens depending on quality (when I started this thought process). Can purchase a new D7200 from Amazon for $795 during "Black Friday" promotion (if I hurry). The big question that first comes to mind, "do I really need to upgrade, and is the D7200 going to give me that much more to justify the expenditure?" I am a landscape/wild animals/vacation/grand kids shooter primarily (not a lot of scenic landscapes or wild animals in Illinois). So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation. The one big advantage for the D7200 is 2 card slots so that I could start playing with RAW on 1 card and JPEG on the other. To date I am strictly a JPEG shooter. I have attached a sample of my work so far with the D5300. I will appreciate all thoughts, both positive and negative in helping me to make a final decision. Thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering tradi... (show quote)


Your computer OS should allow one click sorting by file type. Sort, then move one type to a new folder. Dual card slot GAS avoided.

Spend money on photography education — books, tours, classes...

Knowledge and experience reap far more rewards than slightly better gear.

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Nov 28, 2018 09:17:42   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Sometimes Jpegs are good enough. And sometimes they are great right out of camera- doesn't usually happen very often for me but when it does why mess with it. And with the Fuji there are the film simulation images that only record on Jpeg.

That's why I do Jpegs and Raw (on one card)

rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Go RAW or go home.

The weak link of most DLSRs is the reliance on SD cards for image storage, it is far too easy to damage them. With a dual card system, always use the 2nd slot as a backup.
And I know I will get a lot of pushback on this, but, if you are changing your workflow to incorporate RAW, why bother with shooting JPEGS in camera? Spend time fine tuning your workflow to incorporate RAW processing and just export as JPEG for posting on line, etc.
Go RAW or go home. img src="https://static.ugly... (show quote)

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Nov 28, 2018 09:19:24   #
TucsonDave Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
Elmo55 wrote:
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering trading it in along with a D3400, and several lenses that I am not using (to reduce inventory) for a used D7200. Prices on used D7200's range from high fives to high sevens depending on quality (when I started this thought process). Can purchase a new D7200 from Amazon for $795 during "Black Friday" promotion (if I hurry). The big question that first comes to mind, "do I really need to upgrade, and is the D7200 going to give me that much more to justify the expenditure?" I am a landscape/wild animals/vacation/grand kids shooter primarily (not a lot of scenic landscapes or wild animals in Illinois). So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation. The one big advantage for the D7200 is 2 card slots so that I could start playing with RAW on 1 card and JPEG on the other. To date I am strictly a JPEG shooter. I have attached a sample of my work so far with the D5300. I will appreciate all thoughts, both positive and negative in helping me to make a final decision. Thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering tradi... (show quote)


I would suggest that Burkephoto has a great response. I have been shooting with the D5300 for the past 3 years and have been shooting RAW and JPEG on one card. I love this camera and my skills are still far from utilizing all of the camera's capability. So, classes, reading, and learning along with more photo taking experience would be the best way to use any extra cash I might have lying around. But thats me and you certainly have to follow a path that suites your needs. Just consider striving to be a better photographer along the way. Have fun!

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Nov 28, 2018 10:01:04   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Elmo55 wrote:
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering trading it in along with a D3400, and several lenses that I am not using (to reduce inventory) for a used D7200. Prices on used D7200's range from high fives to high sevens depending on quality (when I started this thought process). Can purchase a new D7200 from Amazon for $795 during "Black Friday" promotion (if I hurry). The big question that first comes to mind, "do I really need to upgrade, and is the D7200 going to give me that much more to justify the expenditure?" I am a landscape/wild animals/vacation/grand kids shooter primarily (not a lot of scenic landscapes or wild animals in Illinois). So far the D5300 has done a good job for me in my estimation. The one big advantage for the D7200 is 2 card slots so that I could start playing with RAW on 1 card and JPEG on the other. To date I am strictly a JPEG shooter. I have attached a sample of my work so far with the D5300. I will appreciate all thoughts, both positive and negative in helping me to make a final decision. Thanks for your kind attention in this matter.
Currently shooting with a D5300, considering tradi... (show quote)

Even though you say the D5300 has done a good job for you, perhaps you are beginning to feel something could be better. When the tools you are using begin to limit how far you can go, that is the right time to upgrade. The problem here is to decide exactly what will make the improvements you seek.

The D5300 and the D7200 have a lot of features that are pretty much equal. The added size and weight of the D7200 are not all that much for most people. The ability to use faster shutter speeds and higher ISO settings are the most important differences that make the D7200 an improvement over the D5300. Another important feature of a digital camera is resolution and both these cameras have 24 MP so should be equal, although the newer D7200 may have some sensor improvements, but I don't know about that.

Another thing to consider is what lenses you are using. Kit lenses that come bundled with cameras are usually at least adequate and often pretty good. However, you ought to consider whether or not better faster glass could be of more benefit at this point than a new body. My first DSLR was a D7000, and I had kit lenses which served me well while learning. But as I listened to discussions like this one, I began to get a better idea of what path to follow. My choice was to upgrade my lenses first, and take into consideration that eventually I may want to buy a full-frame camera. So I began to replace the DX lenses with FX lenses. In general I seek to have as many f/2.8 or better as I can manage, but not ignoring good lenses with a smaller maximum aperture. I am now using a D810, and did not have to purchase new lenses when purchasing the camera.

Do you have a good tripod? For landscapes it is a great benefit because you greatly reduce the possibility of camera shake. Also you can bracket shots for exposure when there is a high dynamic range in the available light. There are quite a lot of threads on the topic of what to look for in a tripod, with the warning that it will not be inexpensive.

Shooting in RAW provides images with a lot more information in them. This improves the ability to make edits that will make a difference in the final photo. Just be aware that RAW images can almost always benefit from some editing, whereas .jpg images are processed in the camera to some extent and are generally more "finished". It is possible to get a RAW image that is so close to perfect you have a hard time figuring out what it needs, but that is the exception. [Perhaps some professional photographers may get it right straight out of the camera more often...].

Do you have a good editing program? There are many excellent choices there, but the Adobe CC subscription is considered by many to be the "gold standard". That statement may draw a lot of discussion, because everyone has their own idea of what works best!

Final note: How you approach photography is a personal decision. The trick to deciding how to proceed is to do the research, compare options, so as to be able to make informed choices. With a limited budget, this becomes even more important. One way to approach GAS is to find out as you are going along what would make your job as photographer easier. This applies not only to cameras and lenses, but also to tripods, tripod heads, filters, camera bags, etc. All of these are just tools to improve your photography and/or to make it easier to accomplish your objectives. In the long run, the main thing is to enjoy what you are doing, keep learning, and to HAVE FUN!

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Nov 28, 2018 10:41:35   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Cdouthitt wrote:


My thought exactly👍😀

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Nov 28, 2018 11:09:31   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Cdouthitt wrote:


Ha, Ha!! Good one.

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