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4/3 photography...is it dead? Or dying?
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Nov 26, 2018 22:19:12   #
adm
 
Not by a long shot. Micro 4/3 will be around for many years to come. The size and weight advantage is unbeatable and the sensors can only get better. My 40 to 150mm zoom is equivalent to 80 to 300mm in full frame and I can put a body and four lenses in a small camera bag. Full frame mirrorless cameras are getting all the attention now but that will not last forever.

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Nov 27, 2018 00:01:14   #
markjay
 
It is not unbeatable compared to APSC.

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Nov 27, 2018 00:28:43   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Which doesn't include the vintage glass you can adapt to the mount...100s more perhaps...?


Vintage glass would be additional to the 100+. The problem with vintage glass is that it was designed for full frame and film. For Olympus, most of the lenses have somewhat limited f-stops and not all of the zoom range will produce a good image. The better the lens, the less the limitations. This is based on testing done by Olympus and their standards for image quality.

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Nov 27, 2018 01:06:23   #
User ID
 
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While I love using m43, I'm ready to point out that
altho it is physically as adaptable as any other live
view camera system, it is also the LEAST practical
example of adaptability.

Most vintage lenses are bulky old FF film era lenses
and a 24mm FF true wide angle becomes just a big
bulky lens of "normal lens" angle of view. Basically,
nearly all the old FF lenses that work so well on my
FF bodies are just plain silly on my m43 bodies.

There are acoarst some exceptions. One example is
the now neglected 55 Micro Nikkor. On m43 it's like
a 100 macro, and not excessively oversized for that
type of work. Reeeeally loooong teles that live on a
tripod aren't really a size and weight problem in that
sort of use, and become "twice as long".

But general purpose wide angles, wide-to-midrange
zooms etc etc are rather impractical, or at least very
"ergonomically challenged", when adapted to m43.

Summing up, I use many-many adapters, and I use
plenty of m43 gear, but adapters get verrrry limited
use with my m43 stuff. The main reason to deal with
little 13x17mm sensors is the tiny sized m43 lenses.
Adapted lenses fly in the face of that concept.


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Nov 27, 2018 01:09:51   #
adm
 
wdross wrote:
Vintage glass would be additional to the 100+. The problem with vintage glass is that it was designed for full frame and film. For Olympus, most of the lenses have somewhat limited f-stops and not all of the zoom range will produce a good image. The better the lens, the less the limitations. This is based on testing done by Olympus and their standards for image quality.


I get great results using my Nikon AF-D (manual focus only), AI-S, and E-series lenses on my Olympus Micro 4/3 cameras.

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Nov 27, 2018 01:23:00   #
adm
 
Nikon E series lenses work very well with Micro 4/3 and do not look awkward or bulky.

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Nov 27, 2018 09:26:16   #
HardwareGuy
 
IDguy wrote:
Wonder where people get the idea Tony Northrup said something about M4/3 being dead? Doesn’t seem to square with his latest post on the topic:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61751948

I know there are some who disparage Northrup just like those who disparage Ken Rockwell, or Trump for that matter. I haven’t seen any of them do something useful for us and really enjoy Tony Northrup’s contributions.

And I own a recently purchased M4/3 Lumix GM5. A teeny beauty!

He does have plenty of good information that he shares, just like Rockwell, and I have learned something from both.
I think it's that their "self promotion" goes over the top sometimes, and annoys some folks.
And Northrup's comments about the death of M4/3 were made elsewhere, and yeah, those comments do not sync with the link you have provided.

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Nov 27, 2018 09:31:11   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
rjaywallace wrote:
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While Bill asked a reasonable question in a calm and reasonable manner with no animus directed at anyone, your response amounted to "a deliberately offensive or provocative online post". I believe you are the troll here, if anyone is.

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Nov 27, 2018 09:45:00   #
Bill Koepsel Loc: Oconomowoc, Wisconsin
 
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Remember Mr Bill was always a nice guy. He only left SNL after Mr Hand and Mr Hammer squashed him......remember????

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Nov 27, 2018 11:09:30   #
DrJ
 
Bill Koepsel wrote:
Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Remember Mr Bill was always a nice guy. He only left SNL after Mr Hand and Mr Hammer squashed him......remember????


My recollection is that Mr. Sluggo would beat up Mr. Bill often. I'm glad I missed the episode when Mr. Bill was squashed. I still have a 1978 Mr. Sluggo tee shirt!

In a more serious note, I recall the demise of Micro 4/3 was predicted when SONY came out with their excellent APS-C NEX series including the still competitive NEX-7. I'm more concerned that with electronic giants SONY and Panasonic now deep into photography markets, the smaller photo companies that make excellent products (eg Olympus, Fuji, Ricoh-Pentax) may have to carefully compete for market share in well defined niches. It benifits photographers when there are many healthy manufacturers. DrJ

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Nov 27, 2018 16:25:36   #
Bipod
 
n3eg wrote:
Four thirds has been dying for at least a decade, and will be dying for a long time to come. Olympus's new camera with those previously unavailable features and their two new lenses coming out in January will certainly pave the pathway to doom.


Thank you for sharing your opinion, which may be correct or incorrect.
Had you given us facts or arguments, we might know which.

Hope you feel better now.

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Nov 28, 2018 03:00:28   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Are you writing this topic with tongue in cheek? There is 4/3 and there is M43. Your question firmly states 4/3. If you are confused over this, you would be joining the ranks of the many. Olympus developed 4/3, and after a partnership with Panasonic to introduce M43, terminated 4/3.
M43 was mirrorless, with all the advantages of that. Panasonic and Olympus showed the rest of the photographic world how exciting and innovative mirrorless M43 could be. The future will be Mirrorless Full Frame for specialist professional use and M43 for general and art photography. Mechanical shutters will go quite soon, which, of course, means the end of the DSLR.

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Nov 28, 2018 06:10:53   #
P.Beau Loc: EG.RI
 
Linda, great shot there especially cropped. Was it taken w/kit lens? if not what one/specs. I am looking to get the lumix 7. thanks for any reviews you have

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