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Nov 23, 2018 16:50:27   #
Toby Cole Loc: Newport, Oregon
 
I have always shot Kodak Tri-X film in this camera and then made contact prints. Some time ago someone posted a comment that they had put the photographic paper into the holder instead film and that it had an effective ISO of 3. I hope I understood the post correctly but have not been able to backtrack to the original for confirmation. If anyone has information on this type of use I would certainly appreciate your input. THX

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Nov 23, 2018 16:56:15   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Some years ago, I did the same thing with Kodak paper in my 4x5. It worked well and testing, prior to using it, revealed ISO 3. The results were a somewhat faux calotype.
http://www.malarz.com/nude_03/04.html

Oh, I used single weight paper and scanned the image through the paper, as if it were a negative.
--Bob

Toby Cole wrote:
I have always shot Kodak Tri-X film in this camera and then made contact prints. Some time ago someone posted a comment that they had put the photographic paper into the holder instead film and that it had an effective ISO of 3. I hope I understood the post correctly but have not been able to backtrack to the original for confirmation. If anyone has information on this type of use I would certainly appreciate your input. THX

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Nov 23, 2018 17:22:26   #
Toby Cole Loc: Newport, Oregon
 
You must be the MAN, thanks again for the help.

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Nov 23, 2018 17:42:15   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
rmalarz wrote:
Some years ago, I did the same thing with Kodak paper in my 4x5. It worked well and testing, prior to using it, revealed ISO 3. The results were a somewhat faux calotype.
http://www.malarz.com/nude_03/04.html

Oh, I used single weight paper and scanned the image through the paper, as if it were a negative.
--Bob


I did this many years ago when I had an active darkroom. It fit perfectly into the sheet film holders. It’s a little bit faster if you expose the emulsion side, maybe ASA 10, but the results through the paper backing were better IMHO. The calotype analogy is a good one.



Andy

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Nov 23, 2018 17:47:24   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Toby Cole wrote:
I have always shot Kodak Tri-X film in this camera and then made contact prints. Some time ago someone posted a comment that they had put the photographic paper into the holder instead film and that it had an effective ISO of 3. I hope I understood the post correctly but have not been able to backtrack to the original for confirmation. If anyone has information on this type of use I would certainly appreciate your input. THX


Here is what you want https://www.facebook.com/groups/1438777439673554/

James R. Kyle - Experimenting With Photographic Paper As Film
He also does workshops or did for both paper negatives and large format photography, 4x5" to 11x14".

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Nov 23, 2018 17:58:31   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Toby Cole wrote:
I have always shot Kodak Tri-X film in this camera and then made contact prints. Some time ago someone posted a comment that they had put the photographic paper into the holder instead film and that it had an effective ISO of 3. I hope I understood the post correctly but have not been able to backtrack to the original for confirmation. If anyone has information on this type of use I would certainly appreciate your input. THX

The post you’re referring to may have been by jamers. You might shoot him a PM.
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-profile?usernum=12459

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Nov 23, 2018 19:11:33   #
Toby Cole Loc: Newport, Oregon
 
Thank you

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Nov 23, 2018 20:56:44   #
rb61 Loc: Maple Grove, MN
 
I have a 4x5 falling plate camera. It has been collecting dust. I look forward to learning more about experimenting with paper.

Thanks

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Nov 24, 2018 06:11:40   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Here is a start:
https://www.stevespanglerscience.com/lab/experiments/sun-sensitive-paper-experiment/

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Nov 24, 2018 06:18:02   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
Toby Cole wrote:
I have always shot Kodak Tri-X film in this camera and then made contact prints. Some time ago someone posted a comment that they had put the photographic paper into the holder instead film and that it had an effective ISO of 3. I hope I understood the post correctly but have not been able to backtrack to the original for confirmation. If anyone has information on this type of use I would certainly appreciate your input. THX


I did the same thing in an 8X10 Pinhole camera using cut film holders, the contact printed.Here are three images from 1980 using single weight paper for the neg. I photographed the prints using a copy stand to get the digitals.





This image took almost an hour to print, most of the time was burning in the foreground since it was blown out due to the 25 minuite exp.
This image took almost an hour to print, most of t...

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Nov 24, 2018 06:19:16   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
rb61 wrote:
I have a 4x5 falling plate camera. It has been collecting dust. I look forward to learning more about experimenting with paper.

Thanks

Experimenting is learning! have fun!!!!!

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Nov 24, 2018 06:39:42   #
GAS496 Loc: Arizona
 
Hello Toby,

Ilford makes a paper called Harman Direct Positive Paper in ISO 3 like you mentioned. I have a box that I have used in my 8x10. It is contrasty as the advertisement states in the Freestyle Photographic add where I bought it. It is fun to play with and works with both a normal lens or even a pinhole.

Jerry

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Nov 24, 2018 07:33:03   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Interesting effect with the image of the nude female.

I suppose others may wish to know how to duplicate this effect using Photoshop.
rmalarz wrote:
Some years ago, I did the same thing with Kodak paper in my 4x5. It worked well and testing, prior to using it, revealed ISO 3. The results were a somewhat faux calotype.
http://www.malarz.com/nude_03/04.html

Oh, I used single weight paper and scanned the image through the paper, as if it were a negative.
--Bob

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Nov 24, 2018 07:53:17   #
melismus Loc: Chesapeake Bay Country
 
I did a lot of this back in the 1970s. My favorite aim was producing negatives that could be interpreted as positives.

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Nov 24, 2018 08:41:41   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Considering that was scanned through the paper negative, as opposed to scanning just the image side of the negative. The solution may be to scan a piece of printer paper for the texture and add it as a layer to the original image.

The closest I've come to duplicating that in Photoshop is a faux Dagauratype. I'll see if I can do something along the lines of a Calotype using photoshop this weekend, or coming week.
--Bob
anotherview wrote:
Interesting effect with the image of the nude female.

I suppose others may wish to know how to duplicate this effect using Photoshop.


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