Bazbo wrote:
You realize that Jefferson was a deist, don't you? If you don't know what that is, it is a long way from being a Christian as you understand it. You should look it up if you are going to link Jefferson to an all-knowing God that controls everything. Jefferson was repelled by the very idea.
You might ponder why when Jefferson founded the University of Virginia, the original deed that t***sferred the land to the university stipulated that there were to be no churches on campus. Sound like a Christian to you?
And as others have pointed out, the Declaration was not the founding of the nation. It only asserted that the colonies no longer recognized the British law or government as sovereign.
You realize that Jefferson was a deist, don't you?... (
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It is the founding document as shown below.
Your Jefferson comment is a typical lib red herring/deflection irrelevant to the thread because you desperately need to change the subject as you have lost and don't know what to do.
Prior to the declaration we were colonists subject to and of the Crown. As the document below shows it is a severance of that status and a declaration that they are a nation called the "United States of America". Try to study US history for once and not listen to Maddow and the DNC for your information.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation......
......We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
Architect1776 wrote:
Your total ignorance of the documents is never ending.
The Constitution as I carefully explained and ALL Americans fully understand, only libs don't understand, the Constitution is the instructions (aka "Legal Authority) on how to operate the country. The DEclaration of Independence founded the nation.
Obviously libs are too uneducated or dense to comprehend this difficult concept.
Correct, the Constitution is the law and the Declaration of independence has no legal authority.
Texcaster wrote:
Correct, the Constitution is the law and the Declaration of independence has no legal authority.
AND????
The Declaration is THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT!!!!!!!
You forgot that part as a lib. Half t***h and ignore the whole part of the discussion.
Admit the Declaration IS THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT of our Nation as I have so eloquently pointed out to you uneducated deniers.
Architect1776 wrote:
AND????
The Declaration is THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT!!!!!!!
You forgot that part as a lib. Half t***h and ignore the whole part of the discussion.
Admit the Declaration IS THE FOUNDING DOCUMENT of our Nation as I have so eloquently pointed out to you uneducated deniers.
You're one eloquent Architect1776 all right, probably the most posh talking architect we've ever had here.
The creation of the United States of America was an evolving progression of steps. I do not think there is any single "founding" document.
The Declaration of Independence announced thirteen independent sovereign states, not a single unified nation. While the script contains the words "united States of America," (note the lower case "united) that phrasing spoke to the unity of their declaration, not to a unified government or single sovereign nation.
The title "United States of America" was not declared for another six months, in a September 9, 1776 declaration by the Continental Congress.
From the Declaration of Independence:
"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
Perhaps our noted patriot and scholar can explain how this statement, or any other part of the Declaration founds a single unified nation...
Please try!
This might be a key phrase: "That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
Eloquence is optional archie, but stamping your little feet and making a declaration without explanation will convince naught but a very, very few.
mwalsh wrote:
The creation of the United States of America was an evolving progression of steps. I do not think there is any single "founding" document.
The Declaration of Independence announced thirteen independent sovereign states, not a single unified nation. While the script contains the words "united States of America," (note the lower case "united) that phrasing spoke to the unity of their declaration, not to a unified government or single sovereign nation.
The title "United States of America" was not declared for another six months, in a September 9, 1776 declaration by the Continental Congress.
From the Declaration of Independence:
"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."
Perhaps our noted patriot and scholar can explain how this statement, or any other part of the Declaration founds a single unified nation...
Please try!
This might be a key phrase: "That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
Eloquence is optional archie, but stamping your little feet and making a declaration without explanation will convince naught but a very, very few.
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It is the founding document you are too stupid or stubborn to admit I am 100% right.
Architect1776 wrote:
It is the founding document you are too stupid or stubborn to admit I am 100% right.
So convincing archie...
Do you stamp your little feet in a rythm or just random falls?
You could try to present a basis or debate to support your thesis...or you can keep making empty declaratories...
I expected nothing but from you.
Even the quote you provided belies your thesis.
thom w wrote:
I believe you literally believe that. So sad. I guess it's no more a stretch than you believing Donald has a conscience or believes in ethics.
Well one thing for sure Hildabeast does bark like dog and millions of people saw that on T.V.
mwalsh wrote:
So convincing archie...
Do you stamp your little feet in a rythm or just random falls?
You could try to present a basis or debate to support your thesis...or you can keep making empty declaratories...
I expected nothing but from you.
Even the quote you provided belies your thesis.
You just can't admit that you are wrong and clueless.
You know.. if these lefties read the founding documents, US History, studied world and cultural geography & world history, KKK, dem
Party roots in f*****m, N**i party, socialism... alinsky, they’d know the t***h and would not bother name calling, violent acts, shooting innocent people, dodging, changing subject and squirming like little school boys needing to pee.
And the dem party would fade into the mist of the past where it’s evil belongs.
Not much different from the A******n issue is it, when does life begin, is it when the egg is fertilized or 9 months later.
letmedance wrote:
Not much different from the A******n issue is it, when does life begin, is it when the egg is fertilized or 9 months later.
There’s an obvious answer. The only answer too. But the indoctrinated and misinformed folks won’t listen.
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
Sounds like a description of you Arch.
You prattle on about how liberals do not understand the Constitution while you display deep ignorance and right wing spin. You stamping your feet and insisting how everyone is wrong except for you is a childish display of ill temper. What's next? Going to hold your breath until your face turns blue?
In spite of your hyper-inflated view of your own awesome opinions, you are no Constitutional scholar, Archie. You need a time-out.
Bazbo wrote:
Sounds like a description of you Arch.
You prattle on about how liberals do not understand the Constitution while you display deep ignorance and right wing spin. You stamping your feet and insisting how everyone is wrong except for you is a childish display of ill temper. What's next? Going to hold your breath until your face turns blue?
In spite of your hyper-inflated view of your own awesome opinions, you are no Constitutional scholar, Archie. You need a time-out.
Why do lefties attack others instead of just learning about something they don’t understand. Leftie teachers do not want you to know the t***h. Ever ask them why?
Lefties don’t even care to look into history and figure out what’s going on with this Russia/Ukraine issue and how it came about. They prefer ignorance.
*hint: l*****ts (like the Dems here) in Germany, historic Crimea region, geography, culture & customs. Ukraine and Russia history. Simple, but way more than the leftie snowflakes can handle.
You see, it’s a man’s world out there. Not good for beta boys and girlie men.
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