Texcaster wrote:
Forget Al Gore and c*****e c****e. We're 7 billion people closing in on 11 billion by 2050, all competing for the remaining resources on an increasingly clapped out planet. A planet that is becoming more and more incapable of supporting human life . Bon Ton Roulet!!
Most here won't be around by then. Therefore, many don't care. Trump appears not to be the only bastard who only cares about himself. Maybe that is what they have in common.
thom w wrote:
Most here won't be around by then. Therefore, many don't care. Trump appears not to be the only bastard who only cares about himself. Maybe that is what they have in common.
I think you meant to say Obama. The most self centered person on the planet.
leftj wrote:
I think you meant to say Obama. The most self centered person on the planet.
No you don't, the very fact that you said that, indicates you don't think. Feelings are cool, but they don't substitute for thinking.
Even though we both know you don't think, if you wish to explain yourself (please don't strain yourself on my account) I'll read it.
thom w wrote:
No you don't, the very fact that you said that, indicates you don't think. Feelings are cool, but they don't substitute for thinking.
Even though we both know you don't think, if you wish to explain yourself (please don't strain yourself on my account) I'll read it.
Your response is comical. Just listen to one of Obama’s speeches. Every other word out of his mouth is “I”.
leftj wrote:
Your response is comical. Just listen to one of Obama’s speeches. Every other word out of his mouth is “I”.
You obviously have never listened to Trump.
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
Remember where George the second left us? Remember where the auto industry, housing industry, banking industry, your 401K was when he left office. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED WITH 2 WARS AT THE SAME TIME ... AND WE'RE still FIGHTING THEM. AND WHERE WERE THESE COMMODITIES WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE? As far as Dump's successes ... look up Hysteresis.. and I hope (doubt if you'll ever) understand just what might be going on.
The collapse of 2008 was never about GHW. It had its seeds long before he even took office.
You can look directly to the socialization of the housing industry. Housing ownership has historically been at around 63%. The social engineers decided that, through the Urban Revitalization Act, that more Americans should own homes. The Feds put the arm on the banks to make loans to folks who couldn't afford homes, lending them as much as 150% of the value of the home. The banks were forced to reduce down payments to negative numbers in a lot of instances, and then allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to force investment banks to buy the mortgages from them, and create Mortgage Backed Securities. Investment banks did their best to use programmed trading to minimize their risk and still make a profit on the MBS's. The traders at those institutions hedged on the trading programs, and the MBS's tanked, taking the investment and insurance companies into bankruptcy.
As the investment banks failed, and the lapse of the Glass-Steagall Act, the investments in risky mortgage securities leaked over into the commercial banks, and they also started to fail. As commercial banks lost liquidity, the resulting domino effect kept the auto industry and other majors from securing capital through the markets.
It's the ultimate in naivety to believe that a single person, President or not, was the single cause of the 2008 financial collapse.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
thom w wrote:
I don't think #3 indicates what you seem to think it does. In order for CO2 to cause g****l w*****g it would have to precede temperature increases, leading me to wonder what your point is. I thought you were trying to prove it doesn't cause warming. It does makes sense, since CO2 does absorb infra red. Oxygen and nitrogen don't.
Good catch.
I misspoke, the reality is that CO2 rises follow GW.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Texcaster wrote:
"That climate is always changing." Jerry
Yair, that's what they always say ...
Can you cite just one century when it wasn’t changing?
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
You've GOT to take politics out of this... what don't you understand about a dead planet. Venus is an extreme view of what our atmosphere could become. About 13 years ago I visited Beijing China and had no problems with breathing or seeing things because of the pollution but do you remember what the Olympics were like a few years ago.Go back and look at photographs for the industrial areas in Pennsylvania, East and West Virginia at the height of steel production .. couldn't see the hand in front of your face...
You've GOT to take politics out of this... what do... (
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Yet when you punish US industry through things like the Paris and Kyoto accords you de facto are suppprting moving industry to Marxist eco-hells.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
thom w wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLrH2eIOWI
This source doesn't agree with you, but I realize that to you that just means they are wrong. They say Chernobyl. may come down to definitions.
Actually your source doesn’t agree with you ... it specifically states Chernobyl as the worst eco disaster “in recent years.”
AND - THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!" is a highly intelligent remark.? REALLY?
leftj wrote:
Ah there’s the typical capitulation remark.
Can you cite just one century wheat we weren't polluting our environment? It' just that the population of the world and the amount of pollution is so great now..
LWW wrote:
Can you cite just one century when it wasn’t changing?
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
Can you cite just one century wheat we weren't polluting our environment? It' just that the population of the world and the amount of pollution is so great now..
You could have just said no.
Obama never started, inserted inside, or ended ever sentence with I, Me or his own name like Rump does, so I don't think so
leftj wrote:
I think you meant to say Obama. The most self centered person on the planet.
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