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Nov 22, 2018 11:00:14   #
Shutterbug57
 
drmike99 wrote:
I have 6x7 (Pentax), 6x4.5 (Bronica ETRSi), and 6x6 (Rolleicord III). The one least used is the Rollei because of the square format. All are used fully manually. The Pentax delivers the best images. The Bronica is the most fun to use.


How much of the Rolliecord’s use, or lack thereof, is due to its square format and how much is being a TLR versus SLR?

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Nov 22, 2018 11:01:20   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Largobob wrote:
Just my opinions:

Since most posted or printed images tend to be more rectangular than square, it seems wasteful to shoot square and then have to crop to throw away either top/bottom or left/right sides to make it rectangular. I find that the 6x7cm format in medium format cameras, has more usable image area than either 645 or 6x6. With 6X7, you get 10 images on a 120 roll, or 20 images on a 220 roll. I had a Mamiya 645 and gave it away....images were always too soft and lacked contrast....at least for my taste.

I have recently invested in some nice old (nearly mint) Bronica GS-1 equipment. I have two GS bodies both with side grip/winder and AE prism finders... 50, 65, 100, 110 macro, 150, 200, and 250mm lenses with caps and hoods....extension tube set, Bronica TTL speed light, remote shutter release, and a variety of 120 and 220 film backs. The images are crisp and sharp. I send the exposed film to "The Darkroom" for processing and scanning. I also have and inexpensive Epson V600 scanner to digitize my analog images.
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I understand what you are saying around throwing some of your pixels away. But keep in mind that on a 24MP camera, a 1:1 image is 16 MP. On a D810, it's 24 MP. And on a D850, a square image still contains 30MP. That's a lot of pixels remaining.

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Nov 22, 2018 11:11:57   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
How much of the Rolliecord’s use, or lack thereof, is due to its square format and how much is being a TLR versus SLR?


More the format. But the reverse image still irks me. I have waist level finders for the other two, occasionally used, so it’s not that.

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Nov 22, 2018 11:23:21   #
stuart416
 
During 15 years of wedding photography is used nothing but 6x6, Rollei, Hasselblad, Mamiya. As long as one considered cropping when shooting, it was an outstanding format. I also enjoyed 6x7 as it produced a very natural shape to work with. Frankly, the format is a matter of taste. All the MF formats are terrific and produce wonderful results. If I had the money I would buy one of the Fuji digital MF cameras, but alas being a retired teacher leaves one with little money to play with.

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Nov 22, 2018 12:14:58   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
The physicality of never having to turn the camera for a vertical orientation would mean a LOT to me !

I am still waiting for a square sensor ! - crop as you like - switchable in VF.

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Nov 22, 2018 12:43:06   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
I am thoroughly enjoying shooting medium format (MF) film with my Mamiya M645. I am considering a used Hassy, but one in good shape with a 80mm lens is in the $1,200 range. Several folks I have talked to that have experience with 6x6 & 6x4.5 say their prefer the 6x4.5 format. SO, I have set up my Fuji X-T2 to shoot in square format and Acros profile. (Most of my MF shooting is B&W). The jury is still out, but I like square format as an additional option.

What are y’alls thoughts on square format (1:1) versus 3:4. Interested to hear from the group.
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I use Micro 4/3, which is natively 4:3 aspect ratio. But there's a menu selection to allow 1:1, 3:2, 4:3, and 16:9 crops. If I just want JPEGs out of the camera, it works okay. If I post-process raw files, I'd rather capture the full sensor area and crop in post. Lightroom has plenty of pre-defined crops, and I've added several of my own for odd uses.

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Nov 22, 2018 13:28:50   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I sometimes crop square to get a square or round object at 100% resolution, like a flower or the moon. Don't know how shooting square would be any better.

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Nov 22, 2018 13:50:51   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
The Pentax K1 has a square option which is a little bigger than aps-c when shooting with a da (dx type lens) typically there maybe heavy vignetting in the corners (36 by 24) aps would be (24 x 16) and Square is (24 x 24) around 50% more than aps-c. So it can be more with less.

Square format appeals especially with live view at waist height. If you ever wanted photos for drink coasters square is quite useful. It's not bad on a monitor either, taking around 2/3rd of the screen compared to around 1/3rd for portrait orientation. Placed to one side it leaves a nice space for text.

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Nov 22, 2018 13:55:01   #
Largobob
 
imagemeister wrote:
The physicality of never having to turn the camera for a vertical orientation would mean a LOT to me !

I am still waiting for a square sensor ! - crop as you like - switchable in VF.

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The Mamiyi RB67 has a rotating, 6x7cm back. No need to turn the camera.

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Nov 22, 2018 14:38:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
I shoot the native aspect ratio, and if I wanted a square image, which is rare, I would crop.



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Nov 22, 2018 14:39:29   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Largobob wrote:
The Mamiyi RB67 has a rotating, 6x7cm back. No need to turn the camera.


Yes, but I thought we were talking DIGITAL ....

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Nov 23, 2018 02:10:27   #
brrywill
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
I am thoroughly enjoying shooting medium format (MF) film with my Mamiya M645. I am considering a used Hassy, but one in good shape with a 80mm lens is in the $1,200 range. Several folks I have talked to that have experience with 6x6 & 6x4.5 say their prefer the 6x4.5 format. SO, I have set up my Fuji X-T2 to shoot in square format and Acros profile. (Most of my MF shooting is B&W). The jury is still out, but I like square format as an additional option.

What are y’alls thoughts on square format (1:1) versus 3:4. Interested to hear from the group.
I am thoroughly enjoying shooting medium format (M... (show quote)



My first camera was a 120 TLR, and in High School I was lucky enough to work for a Hassy dealer and managed to buy my first Hasselblad with the employee discount. So I started with square format and never looked back. I shot with Hassy's my entire life and loved the square format. When I went to medium format digital I bought a Fuji 50S. The Fuji has the square option and still gives you a 33x33 image area. I love the square format, it is practical, versatile, and convenient. I long for the day Hasselblad, or any camera company for that matter, brings out a 50x50mm square sensor. It is long overdue.

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