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Nov 17, 2018 07:37:30   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.

I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..


My current D90 has no value as a trade in and I am willing to consider another brand besides Nikon. I am leaning towards a full-frame camera such as the Nikon Z6, Z7 and D850. But, I am attracted to the Sony A7 III, as well as the Olympus OMD series and the Fuji XT-3 with the smaller sensors. I am on the fence regarding mirrorless vs. regular DSLR technology.


Lastly, for landscapes, are 2.8 f-stop lenses really necessary when 6 or 11 f stops offer the best sharpness? 2.8 lenses are much more expensive, as you know. If you needed background blur I would think that a 1.4 or 1.8 prime lens would be better.


Thank you all for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)


Nikon D850 all day everyday. But, try the new Nikon mirrorless or the Sony A7.

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Nov 17, 2018 07:51:17   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Been retired for 11 years and a Nikon user for much longer. I recently bought the Z7 and find it a fascinating camera. It will do what you want.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:06:21   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
We lie, we lie, we lie!!! Just remember that. Retirement lasts a long time (if we are lucky) so don't feel rushed and don't base your purchase on what we say we bought. Collectively, we have it all and what pleases us may not be right for you. My advise is to narrow the selection and borrow or rent for a brief period to be sure it is to your liking.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:16:04   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.

I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..


My current D90 has no value as a trade in and I am willing to consider another brand besides Nikon. I am leaning towards a full-frame camera such as the Nikon Z6, Z7 and D850. But, I am attracted to the Sony A7 III, as well as the Olympus OMD series and the Fuji XT-3 with the smaller sensors. I am on the fence regarding mirrorless vs. regular DSLR technology.


Lastly, for landscapes, are 2.8 f-stop lenses really necessary when 6 or 11 f stops offer the best sharpness? 2.8 lenses are much more expensive, as you know. If you needed background blur I would think that a 1.4 or 1.8 prime lens would be better.


Thank you all for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)


Sounds to me you might be ready for the "Full frame Cameras. Higher quality lens. Mirrorless is new technology, I personally would like to wait to see how these cameras perform in the long haul. Do your research on any Camera and Lens you consider.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:16:56   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I’m 70 and two years ago swapped my Nikon gear for Olympus OMD e-M5 II. Couldn’t be happier! The 5-axis in camera stabilization makes for tack sharp images, hand held. Once I got used to the touch screen, I can really control what I’m doing without having to dig through a lot of menus. There’s a wide lens selection available from Oly and Panasonic, my camera is weatherproof as are a couple of my lenses. Oh, and I can carry the camera and a 28-300 equivalent lens around my neck all day with no pain!

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Nov 17, 2018 08:19:09   #
BebuLamar
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.

I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..


My current D90 has no value as a trade in and I am willing to consider another brand besides Nikon. I am leaning towards a full-frame camera such as the Nikon Z6, Z7 and D850. But, I am attracted to the Sony A7 III, as well as the Olympus OMD series and the Fuji XT-3 with the smaller sensors. I am on the fence regarding mirrorless vs. regular DSLR technology.


Lastly, for landscapes, are 2.8 f-stop lenses really necessary when 6 or 11 f stops offer the best sharpness? 2.8 lenses are much more expensive, as you know. If you needed background blur I would think that a 1.4 or 1.8 prime lens would be better.


Thank you all for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)


You said another question "what should I buy" so it's another thread where you have lots of response but no real answer. Only YOU know "What should you buy".

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Nov 17, 2018 08:24:35   #
throughrhettseyes Loc: Rowlett, TX
 
Hi, You sound like a guy that likes the type of photography that I do. This is what is in my bag. Nikon D500 $1500, Nikon battery grip $300, Nikon 16-80mm f2.8 $800, Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 $1200, Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 $1200, Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 $300, Nikon SB800 speedlight $300, and a Tokina 100mm f2.8 macro $300. Total $5900.00. These are new prices. You can get a free battery grip and 16-80mm with a D500 package for around $2200 - 2400. Watch for sales on this. Since you are a hobby photographer like me then save your money and buy a crop sensor camera and buy nice lenses instead of buying a full frame. The D500 is fast focusing, and has great sensitivity to light. You would have to buy a D5 or D850 to get anything better. All the wildlife photographers have gone to the D500. Good luck.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:31:03   #
ELNikkor
 
Since it sounds like you will be doing this more as a retirement hobby, but are wanting those "tack sharp" images, you might want the versatility of "dialing up" the max resolution for those times you arrive on a scene that close-to-far max resolution will make the image a stunning "wall-hanger". The D850 will give you that quality, especially if you learn to use some of its state-of the art features, such as internal focus-stacking. Since you've had the D90 awhile, you might as well get a camera that will last you as long and never go obsolete.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:42:46   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.

I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..


My current D90 has no value as a trade in and I am willing to consider another brand besides Nikon. I am leaning towards a full-frame camera such as the Nikon Z6, Z7 and D850. But, I am attracted to the Sony A7 III, as well as the Olympus OMD series and the Fuji XT-3 with the smaller sensors. I am on the fence regarding mirrorless vs. regular DSLR technology.


Lastly, for landscapes, are 2.8 f-stop lenses really necessary when 6 or 11 f stops offer the best sharpness? 2.8 lenses are much more expensive, as you know. If you needed background blur I would think that a 1.4 or 1.8 prime lens would be better.


Thank you all for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)

Don't ignore Pentax. The K1 is a pro level full frame at a crop sensor price. They don't have the number of lenses as do Canikon, but they have the lenses that you mentioned.

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Nov 17, 2018 08:49:43   #
wds0410 Loc: Nunya
 
traderjohn wrote:
Yes....you must have brand spanky new camera stuff. Anything less makes anything you do just look like crap. I wonder how many people when given two pictures both spot on. One taken with a D750 and the other with a D850 would really know the difference?



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Nov 17, 2018 08:59:25   #
al13
 
jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.

I am primarily a landscape (80%), car show(15%), air show (5%) shooter. My primary goals with this purchase are superb image quality and outstanding auto focus that ultimately produce tack sharp images. I am working on the tack sharp part with practice, local college classes, tripod, reading, talking, Internet, UHH, etc..


My current D90 has no value as a trade in and I am willing to consider another brand besides Nikon. I am leaning towards a full-frame camera such as the Nikon Z6, Z7 and D850. But, I am attracted to the Sony A7 III, as well as the Olympus OMD series and the Fuji XT-3 with the smaller sensors. I am on the fence regarding mirrorless vs. regular DSLR technology.


Lastly, for landscapes, are 2.8 f-stop lenses really necessary when 6 or 11 f stops offer the best sharpness? 2.8 lenses are much more expensive, as you know. If you needed background blur I would think that a 1.4 or 1.8 prime lens would be better.


Thank you all for your help.

John T.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)

I just sold my Nikon D500 and multiple lens to move to mirrorless. I tried both the Sony and Fuji as I wanted a more compact camera. I ultimately choose the Fuji XT-3 and it was a great choice for me. The menu and camera functions were easy to learn and pictures are phenomenal. Only you can decide which camera is right for you. I would suggest you go to Lens Rentals and rent the cameras you are interested in. The cost for rental is worth the upfront fee to make the right decision for you.

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Nov 17, 2018 09:01:19   #
al13
 
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jptonks wrote:
Hello all,

I am nearing retirement and have decided to get more serious about my photography hobby. I am a serious amateur who has been dabbling in photography for many years. I have been shooting a Nikon D90 since 2009 with the kit 18-105, 3.5-5.6 lens. I am ready to upgrade.

I have been saving for this upgrade for a long time and now have a budget of $5,000. However, spending less than that amount would certainly be acceptable. What is more important is that I end up with the right camera/lens system that works for me without buying more technology than my skill level can utilize. I recently began my post processing career with Photoshop Elements. I may want to enlarge a photo from time to time to a "hang it on the wall" size, but nothing outrageous.



Your post says you are nearing retirement. I am also retired. I found caring around my Nikon cameras and lenses was too much for my shoulder and back. I switched to Fuji and for the same reason my my friend switched to Fuji.
All the cameras you mention will give you a fine photograph. I like Fuji because it’s like an old fashioned camera with f stop, shutter speed on the camera. Try the cameras you mentioned see which feels best in your hands. Also you can buy used from a reputable company like KEH. I now only buy used lenses.
Hello all, br br I am nearing retirement and have... (show quote)



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Nov 17, 2018 09:04:51   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
Listen to all the advice you get here and then rent the ones you put on your short list from LensRentals.com. When you do buy, you won't have buyer's remorse and you will be sure you made a fair assessment of the cameras.

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Nov 17, 2018 09:07:20   #
BebuLamar
 
rond-photography wrote:
Listen to all the advice you get here and then rent the ones you put on your short list from LensRentals.com. When you do buy, you won't have buyer's remorse and you will be sure you made a fair assessment of the cameras.


How much does it cost to rent the cameras on the OP short list?

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Nov 17, 2018 09:13:53   #
RolandDieter
 
Since you are at retirement age you will most likely soon find FF DSLR just too heavy, both to carry around and to hold comfortably. APS-C is an alternative, but m4/3 worked best for me. I prefer Panasonic (top-of-the line g9 is great) over Olympus, but others like the Oly: go to a store, handle both a bit, then choose. The Panasonic Lumix and Olympus lenses can all be used on both company's cameras. For lenses the best m4/3 are the Olympus PRO lenses and the top of the line Lumix. The Lumix 100-400 (equivalent to 200-800 in FF) would be fine at air shows as would the non-zoom Oly PRO telephotos. For landscapes they have several choices. For car shows you will probably want the bet to get the most color depth and detail. Find comparison tests by searching for the ones that interest you, for example, search: Lumix g9 vs Sony a9. That's quicker than going to each site directly and trying to find the comparisons there, sometimes finding that a given site you are searching didn't compare the two cameras or lenses you are interested in. What to look for in the comparisons? ... My thinking is for air shows you want focus speed, follow focus and (as a tie-breaker) having no screen blackout between shots ... for car shows color depth and sharpness when wider open ... for landscapes it's sharpness and color depth at narrower apertures.

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