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Nov 14, 2018 09:46:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
A friend's brother lives in Paradise, CA. They saw the flames in the distance, ran from the house, and two hours later, there was nothing left. He said that people had called the power company to report sparking from their power lines. They ignored the calls. Whether that's fact or rumor, I don't know.

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Nov 14, 2018 09:55:18   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Probably (from experience) there wasn't too much the power company could do.

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Nov 14, 2018 10:04:18   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Longshadow wrote:
Probably (from experience) there wasn't too much the power company could do.


Cause and effect are not clear at this point. Did the fire cause the downed power lines or the other way around?

In the massive fires a year ago, PG&E lines were found to be the original cause. PG&E has instituted power outages for areas in extreme fire danger to prevent what happened a year ago. As for this years's fires? I am sure we will know in due course.

But things did happen fast and that caused a lot of things to go wrong, including evacuation.

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Nov 14, 2018 10:13:41   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A friend's brother lives in Paradise, CA. They saw the flames in the distance, ran from the house, and two hours later, there was nothing left. He said that people had called the power company to report sparking from their power lines. They ignored the calls. Whether that's fact or rumor, I don't know.


This is a great tragedy. The worst in California history. 27,000 homeless and 45 dead so far, and 200 still missing ... This was a beautiful old town. We need to pray for these people and the few that have offered their homes as temporary housing...

Some ways to donate.....

Red Cross: Monetary donations can bae made to the American Red Cross by calling 1-800-RED-CROSS or texting REDCROSS to 90999 to make a $10 donation.

United Way of Northern California: United Way established a NorCal Disaster Relief Fund to help victims. To make a donation, text BUTTEFIRE to 91999.

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Nov 14, 2018 11:34:32   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
The organization that I support is the Salvation Army. They provide emergency relief in situations like this and have set up a site for the California fire victims LINK.

When our home town was hit by tornado's, they were first on scene with truck loads of household goods/clothing to give out to folks that lost their belongings. They provided hot meals 3 times a day for the clean up effort and were a god-send to the folks. #1 in my book.

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Nov 14, 2018 12:07:05   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A friend's brother lives in Paradise, CA. They saw the flames in the distance, ran from the house, and two hours later, there was nothing left. He said that people had called the power company to report sparking from their power lines. They ignored the calls. Whether that's fact or rumor, I don't know.

I just heard on the news on a San Francisco station that PG&E stock has dropped by about 50% since the Camp Fire started. Down to $22 currently from $48 on Nov 8.

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Nov 14, 2018 13:41:20   #
Chris F. Loc: San Francisco
 
Here in San Francisco, the sky has been shrouded by thick smoke for many days. Certainly the folks in the Chico and Paradise area have much bigger problems. Sad.

Chris

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Nov 14, 2018 15:36:49   #
HardwareGuy
 
An friend of mine who lives in Chico told me that there hundreds more homeless wandering around town, tent cities in parking lots, and smoke, smoke, smoke.
Sounds absolutely awful.
As frankraney stated, these people need our prayers...and financial support.

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Nov 15, 2018 06:05:03   #
gunner369 Loc: NV
 
Here are photo's of my Nieces house in Paradise,before and after. They got out safe, loaded 3 cars with belongings and lucky her Mother lived in Redding so they had a place to go to, but are now looking to rent a home in Chico, Ca




(Download)

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Nov 15, 2018 07:02:41   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
I heard that on the news too, of course it doesn't mean it's true. The situation is sad indeed. I used to live in CA for a few years. Those fires can advance at over 50MPH when the winds are strong and you cannot outrun them.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:56:39   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Shellback wrote:
The organization that I support is the Salvation Army. They provide emergency relief in situations like this and have set up a site for the California fire victims LINK.

When our home town was hit by tornado's, they were first on scene with truck loads of household goods/clothing to give out to folks that lost their belongings. They provided hot meals 3 times a day for the clean up effort and were a god-send to the folks. #1 in my book.
The organization that I support is the Salvation A... (show quote)


Quite right about The Salvation Army. Also Catholic Charities. I remember how the Red Cross handled the massive amounts of money given to them after 9/11. I would never them penny one.

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Nov 15, 2018 08:23:21   #
ad9mac
 
traderjohn wrote:
Quite right about The Salvation Army. Also Catholic Charities. I remember how the Red Cross handled the massive amounts of money given to them after 9/11. I would never them penny one.

Hear hear.
My two favorites Salvation Army and USO

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Nov 15, 2018 08:23:44   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
frankraney wrote:
This is a great tragedy. The worst in California history. 27,000 homeless and 45 dead so far, and 200 still missing ... This was a beautiful old town. We need to pray for these people and the few that have offered their homes as temporary housing...

Some ways to donate.....

Red Cross: Monetary donations can bae made to the American Red Cross by calling 1-800-RED-CROSS or texting REDCROSS to 90999 to make a $10 donation.

United Way of Northern California: United Way established a NorCal Disaster Relief Fund to help victims. To make a donation, text BUTTEFIRE to 91999.
This is a great tragedy. The worst in California h... (show quote)


I suggest we donate to getting better management.
Read "Biography of a Small Mountain" and see how forests were prior to idiots fighting every little fire that came along. It is a great management book for natural management of forests etc.

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Nov 15, 2018 08:43:30   #
rayclay Loc: Arab, AL., USA
 
The one's that follow disasters for clean-up effort tell me Red Cross shows up, puts up big tent, coffee and doughnuts, TV media filming. Make on camera plea for money.Take down tent and leave, Salvation Army is there from beginning to end. No media, just hard working caring folks.

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Nov 15, 2018 09:10:37   #
SonyBug
 
If you donate to the Red Cross for a certain purpose, they will not use it for that. They say they have to have reserves for other disasters, so they bank some of the money and not use it for the purpose designated. Of course I don't want to start on excessive salaries for the leaders. No Red Cross for me. I agree with the S Army, USO, Catholic Charities.

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