New Steps
Nov 12, 2018 15:19:43 #
Last week I posted an image titled 'Steps' and got some helpful response. Before I could complete the thread with my 'final' version my internet connection disappeared. A nice engineer put things right this afternoon and, as its been a little while, I thought I'd start with a new post. The original figures have been dismissed and a new candidate is offered - chosen not only for her disarming smile but her choice of attire as well. Hope you approve, but whether or not, I'd still appreciate your thoughts on the revised image.
Nov 12, 2018 16:30:46 #
Interesting! Mostly, I miss the distant view. Otherwise, it's a totally different image - in exposure, aspect, prominence of the figure. It's now very much about this tall (imposing), red-dressed person who demands our attention. A thought-provoking piece, for sure.
Nov 12, 2018 18:22:38 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Interesting! Mostly, I miss the distant view. Otherwise, it's a totally different image - in exposure, aspect, prominence of the figure. It's now very much about this tall (imposing), red-dressed person who demands our attention. A thought-provoking piece, for sure.
Yes, the subject is now unavoidably the girl, there’s no doubt about that Linda. I also have a version more akin to my original post - just with no figures at all, and retaining the view through the arch. With the new one I tried shifting that view so we could still see the far bridge, but there was then too much competition, and the girl was always going to win as she’s looking directly at the camera. It had what some might describe as too much visual tension.
Nov 13, 2018 03:01:33 #
Nice idea but the girl seems rather too tall for realism. Her hand is floating above the banister rail so she could be made smaller.
Nov 13, 2018 07:28:12 #
A lovely model that's well positioned to your liking Dave. She is rather tall, but fits nicely. I like how you have placed her so her hand is on the downward portion of the banister rail.
Dave
Dave
Nov 13, 2018 09:08:02 #
Dave Chinn wrote:
A lovely model that's well positioned to your liking Dave. She is rather tall, but fits nicely. I like how you have placed her so her hand is on the downward portion of the banister rail.
Dave
Dave
I fiddled with her height for a while Dave, she just seemed to fit the handrail better as is but I’ll try reducing her a bit and see how things pan out - she does need to be at that deeper step point or she will be falling off the step, if you see what I mean. Many thanks for commenting, it’s always helpful.
Nov 13, 2018 09:08:26 #
canadaboy wrote:
Nice idea but the girl seems rather too tall for realism. Her hand is floating above the banister rail so she could be made smaller.
Will do.
Nov 13, 2018 10:24:28 #
magnetoman wrote:
I fiddled with her height for a while Dave, she just seemed to fit the handrail better as is but I’ll try reducing her a bit and see how things pan out - she does need to be at that deeper step point or she will be falling off the step, if you see what I mean. Many thanks for commenting, it’s always helpful.
Dave, just to confirm my earlier comments, I believe her proportionate size is just about as close you can get, IMO. I'm not convinced that smaller will do you any good, but I could be wrong. If you decide to reduce her size, very little would be all thats needed. I struggle with proper proportionate sizing of objects, so sometimes it's best to go with your own judgement.
Dave
Nov 13, 2018 11:03:01 #
Dave Chinn wrote:
Dave, just to confirm my earlier comments, I believe her proportionate size is just about as close you can get, IMO. I'm not convinced that smaller will do you any good, but I could be wrong. If you decide to reduce her size, very little would be all thats needed. I struggle with proper proportionate sizing of objects, so sometimes it's best to go with your own judgement.
Dave
Dave
Well what I've done here Dave is to draw a couple of lines between heads and feet of the two figures in the original to use as perspective guides, then reduced my girl to fit at about the distance between the two figures that she would be if on the ground. Hope that makes sense? The problem is, that handrail is, in reality, rather higher than a standard one would be, so she can no longer have her hand on it and look right - so she's just steadying herself with one of the uprights.....what do you think of it? I've also brought the original view under the bridge back in and toned the whole lot down a bit as well.
Nov 13, 2018 11:47:35 #
Dave, looking at your last version gives me the indication that she was a little too large in the first one. Seeing both really does point out the proportionate size to what should be acceptable. Altho, based on your description height of the railing, the viewer wouldn't have or know the height difference. Having said that, I think she may be just a little too small now. Maybe enlarge her just a tad and move her over towards the center some to where she is reaching for the rail instead of touching. Just a suggestion, and I'm sure you have some ideas of your own. IMO, you're close, but no cigar, just yet.
Dave
Dave
Nov 13, 2018 11:56:30 #
You must have made your corrections prior to my posted comments. I think by repositioning her arm works very well. Not sure and really can't tell if you repositioned her size, but it sorta looks that way. The color and exposure seems a little different and helps to blend her in more to the better. I think you have that cigar now !!! Nice work, I like the final very much.
Dave
Dave
Nov 13, 2018 11:56:52 #
The view under the bridge definitely needed to play a secondary role. This one is so much more unambiguous.
Nov 13, 2018 12:37:13 #
Dave Chinn wrote:
You must have made your corrections prior to my posted comments. I think by repositioning her arm works very well. Not sure and really can't tell if you repositioned her size, but it sorta looks that way. The color and exposure seems a little different and helps to blend her in more to the better. I think you have that cigar now !!! Nice work, I like the final very much.
Dave
Dave
Trouble is Dave, last time I lit a cigar after not smoking for six years, it started it all off again - and I now haven’t smoked for around twelve years, so better just be a metaphorical cigar! Many thanks though, glad I got there.
Nov 13, 2018 12:38:17 #
R.G. wrote:
The view under the bridge definitely needed to play a secondary role. This one is so much more unambiguous.
Must admit I was surprised at how important that view is to the overall RG. Thanks for commenting.
Nov 13, 2018 14:17:52 #
A common, usual step height is about 8 inches, so the comment of the girl's size is quite appropriate as she towers over 12 steps (possibly96 inches)!
The adjusted height makes her seem more realistic to scale of the scene. Composites are always tricky!
The adjusted height makes her seem more realistic to scale of the scene. Composites are always tricky!
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